Ancient spear

Multumesc · 4th December 2013, 02:03 PM

A friend has this spear tip. Gentlemen colleagues, how old is this spear? Thank you very much.

Multumesc · 4th December 2013, 02:20 PM

Spear dimensions are; 28x3,5x2,5

Matchlock · 4th December 2013, 05:46 PM

Hi Multumesc,

Telling by the generally finely wrought and sharply pointed leaf shape and the octagonal outer surface of the socket, I would date this object tentatively to the 2nd half of the 16th c.

In my collection there is a similar so-called frog's-mouth spear, Graz/Styria, ca. 1560, retaining its original but slightly shortened octagonal haft, and all preserved in optimum original condition - see attachments.

Best,
Michael

Evgeny_K · 4th December 2013, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

HI would date this object tentatively to the 2nd half of the 16th c.

I think this spear is much older, maybe scythian or sarmatian

Matchlock · 5th December 2013, 11:55 AM

Hi Evgeny,

Assuming a production for this spear head in Ancient Times is of course possible, especially when you take into consideration the finely wrought pronounced central rib of the blade, as well as the fact that the Renaissance just repeated the ancient forms.
It was only not with sufficient authority on my side that I could have pleaded for such an early period of origin.

Best,
Michael

4th December 2013, 02:03 PM	#1
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 202	Ancient spear A friend has this spear tip. Gentlemen colleagues, how old is this spear? Thank you very much. Attached Images

4th December 2013, 05:46 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Multumesc, Telling by the generally finely wrought and sharply pointed leaf shape and the octagonal outer surface of the socket, I would date this object tentatively to the 2nd half of the 16th c. In my collection there is a similar so-called frog's-mouth spear, Graz/Styria, ca. 1560, retaining its original but slightly shortened octagonal haft, and all preserved in optimum original condition - see attachments. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 4th December 2013 at 07:47 PM.

4th December 2013, 02:20 PM	#2
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 202	Spear dimensions are; 28x3,5x2,5

5th December 2013, 11:55 AM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Evgeny, Assuming a production for this spear head in Ancient Times is of course possible, especially when you take into consideration the finely wrought pronounced central rib of the blade, as well as the fact that the Renaissance just repeated the ancient forms. It was only not with sufficient authority on my side that I could have pleaded for such an early period of origin. Best, Michael