Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury
User Name
Password
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 22nd March 2014, 02:37 PM   #1
weapons 27
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 422
Default spanish daggers ???

2 daggers I think Spanish?
the handle is in stone, ivory pieces, brass
the other brass and stone
brass scabbard
It measures 23cm
Attached Images
     
weapons 27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2014, 10:58 PM   #2
M ELEY
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NC, U.S.A.
Posts: 1,346
Default

The blades and very distinctive guards are those found on dress dirks of the late 18th-early 19 c., but the hilts are throwing me. The pommel style is late 18th, the grip reminds me of those daggers from the Azores. What are they called again!? Could the hilts have been replaced or are these more Spanish colonial? Or an African/Moroccan interpretation of a European form?
M ELEY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd March 2014, 12:30 PM   #3
fernando
Lead Moderator European Armoury
 
fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 6,266
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by M ELEY
...the grip reminds me of those daggers from the Azores. What are they called again!? ...

Daggers from Azores ? Now you got me, Capitão
fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd March 2014, 09:02 PM   #4
M ELEY
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NC, U.S.A.
Posts: 1,346
Default

Perhaps my lack of sleep is blurring my memory, Fernando. I was trying to remember those daggers discussed on the Ethno side that closely resemble and are often mistake for plug bayonets. They were from the isles between the U.S. and Morocco/Spain. Forgive my clarity-just worked a looooong week at the hospital!

Looked it up- the Canaries. Than again, perhaps I was remembering the Albacete type- Anyway, I was trying to find a pic of the dress dirks with this type guard, but no luck so far. I still think they are dirks and provincial with their hilts.
M ELEY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th March 2014, 11:36 AM   #5
fernando
Lead Moderator European Armoury
 
fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 6,266
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by M ELEY
... Perhaps my lack of sleep is blurring my memory, Fernando. I was trying to remember those daggers discussed on the Ethno side that closely resemble and are often mistake for plug bayonets...Forgive my clarity ....

I discern some association, there, Mark .
Portuguese plug bayonets do exist in the Azorean version, namely when they have whale 'ivory' hilts.
Your clarity is not so dark, after all .
Quote:
Originally Posted by M ELEY
... I still think they are dirks and provincial with their hilts...

I concur with your assumption; some local smith giving wings to his imagination .
fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:50 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.