Curious daggers for ID

Ascalon · 14th January 2010, 06:09 PM

Hi,
I find this curious dagger, can i have any suggestion?
The scabbard looks like flissa but i've never seen daggers like these.
Thanks.
Emmanuel

Emanuel · 14th January 2010, 08:37 PM

Hi Emmanuel,

The scabbard does indeed look like those of "modern" flyssa and nimcha daggers.

The daggers themselves seem to be inspired by Bosnian "Sarajevo" knives
http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3717
http://vikingsword.com/vb/search.php?searchid=44278

Cheers,
Emanuel

VANDOO · 15th January 2010, 07:32 PM

I HAVE SEEN FOUR SETS OF THESE KNIVES INCLUDING THIS ONE. I HAVE TWO ONE WITH STEEL KNIVES LIKE YOURS AND THE OTHER WITH FINELY MADE WOODEN KNIVES THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THE STEEL KNIVES, I SUSPECT IT WAS A SAMPLE? THE ONLY DIRECT REFRENCE I HAVE SEEN WITH PICTURES WAS IN ONE OF THE OLD BANNERMAN CATALOGS. THEY HAD A SET OF THESE AND SAID THEY CAME FROM ALGERIA.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORK ON THE SCABBARDS YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF SIMULARITY TO THE WORK DONE ON THE SCABBARDS AND HANDLES OF THE WEDDING NIMCHAS FROM MOROCCO. SO I WOULD SAY ALGERIA AS AN ORIGIN BUT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT USE THE KNIVES WOULD HAVE SERVED.
THE STEEL KNIVES ARE VERY THIN AND LIGHT AND THE BALANCE IS NOT BAD BUT THEY HAVE SMALL HANDLES SO I DOUBT THEY WOULD BE FIGHTING KNIVES AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WEIGHT TO BE USED FOR THROWING. I WOULD GUESS THAT THEY WERE A TOP QUALITY UTILITY KNIFE OF SOME SORT PERHAPS ASSOCIATED WITH SOME TRADE OR GUILD.

AT ANY RATE THEY ARE NOT COMMON AND ARE AN INTERESTING AND WELL MADE LITTLE KNIFE SET.
CONGRADULATIONS AS YOU ARE NOW ONE OF THREE PERSONS I KNOW WHO OWNS A SET.

Ascalon · 18th January 2010, 04:59 PM

Thank you.
Emmanuel

14th January 2010, 06:09 PM	#1
Ascalon Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France Posts: 45	Curious daggers for ID Hi, I find this curious dagger, can i have any suggestion? The scabbard looks like flissa but i've never seen daggers like these. Thanks. Emmanuel

14th January 2010, 08:37 PM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hi Emmanuel, The scabbard does indeed look like those of "modern" flyssa and nimcha daggers. The daggers themselves seem to be inspired by Bosnian "Sarajevo" knives http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3717 http://vikingsword.com/vb/search.php?searchid=44278 Cheers, Emanuel

15th January 2010, 07:32 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAVE SEEN FOUR SETS OF THESE KNIVES INCLUDING THIS ONE. I HAVE TWO ONE WITH STEEL KNIVES LIKE YOURS AND THE OTHER WITH FINELY MADE WOODEN KNIVES THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THE STEEL KNIVES, I SUSPECT IT WAS A SAMPLE? THE ONLY DIRECT REFRENCE I HAVE SEEN WITH PICTURES WAS IN ONE OF THE OLD BANNERMAN CATALOGS. THEY HAD A SET OF THESE AND SAID THEY CAME FROM ALGERIA. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORK ON THE SCABBARDS YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF SIMULARITY TO THE WORK DONE ON THE SCABBARDS AND HANDLES OF THE WEDDING NIMCHAS FROM MOROCCO. SO I WOULD SAY ALGERIA AS AN ORIGIN BUT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT USE THE KNIVES WOULD HAVE SERVED. THE STEEL KNIVES ARE VERY THIN AND LIGHT AND THE BALANCE IS NOT BAD BUT THEY HAVE SMALL HANDLES SO I DOUBT THEY WOULD BE FIGHTING KNIVES AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WEIGHT TO BE USED FOR THROWING. I WOULD GUESS THAT THEY WERE A TOP QUALITY UTILITY KNIFE OF SOME SORT PERHAPS ASSOCIATED WITH SOME TRADE OR GUILD. AT ANY RATE THEY ARE NOT COMMON AND ARE AN INTERESTING AND WELL MADE LITTLE KNIFE SET. CONGRADULATIONS AS YOU ARE NOW ONE OF THREE PERSONS I KNOW WHO OWNS A SET.

18th January 2010, 04:59 PM	#4
Ascalon Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France Posts: 45	Thank you. Emmanuel