New forged keris for review

Anthony G. · 14th August 2023, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

and what a difference we have, the original is something pretty nice, just the difference in detail & proportion destroys the copy.

very true. I supposed the base of the bilah is kind of too 'wide'.

David · 14th August 2023, 02:05 PM

Well, i'm jumping on the "ugly" train here as well. As stated, the pamor is pretty brilliant, but the rest of this keris is just not attractive.
Another thing that i find disturbing is the way the pamor simply runs right over the ganan figure on the gandik rather than working with the contours of the carved figure there. This figure also seems stiff and cartoonish compared to the original model. The greneng seems to not understand how ron dha should be shaped.

A. G. Maisey · 14th August 2023, 10:48 PM

maybe the angle of the photograph has contributed a lot to this perception of ugliness, I feel that if this photo had been taken with the camera positioned 90 degrees at mid-blade, & with a small F-stop we might be seeing something different here.

Anthony G. · 15th August 2023, 01:10 AM

What Alan remarked is true indeed and I have asked for more photo to be given.

Battara · 17th August 2023, 04:20 AM

I'm with Alan. I love the pamor but not too crazy about the dapor.

A. G. Maisey · 17th August 2023, 10:15 AM

I'm OK with the dhapur, what turns me off is the execution, when the photo was taken from a bad angle that misrepresented proportion, and that compounded the less than good effect, but now that has been fixed the overall impression is really not so bad.

Interested Party · 17th August 2023, 02:19 PM

Are these the same blades? Very close.

15th August 2023, 01:10 AM	#4
Anthony G. Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 457	What Alan remarked is true indeed and I have asked for more photo to be given. Attached Images Last edited by Anthony G.; 15th August 2023 at 12:55 PM.

17th August 2023, 02:19 PM	#7
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 392	Are these the same blades? Very close. Attached Images

14th August 2023, 02:05 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,044	Well, i'm jumping on the "ugly" train here as well. As stated, the pamor is pretty brilliant, but the rest of this keris is just not attractive. Another thing that i find disturbing is the way the pamor simply runs right over the ganan figure on the gandik rather than working with the contours of the carved figure there. This figure also seems stiff and cartoonish compared to the original model. The greneng seems to not understand how ron dha should be shaped.

14th August 2023, 10:48 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,736	maybe the angle of the photograph has contributed a lot to this perception of ugliness, I feel that if this photo had been taken with the camera positioned 90 degrees at mid-blade, & with a small F-stop we might be seeing something different here.

17th August 2023, 04:20 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I'm with Alan. I love the pamor but not too crazy about the dapor.

17th August 2023, 10:15 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,736	I'm OK with the dhapur, what turns me off is the execution, when the photo was taken from a bad angle that misrepresented proportion, and that compounded the less than good effect, but now that has been fixed the overall impression is really not so bad.