surviving visgothic swords?

chevalier · 14th September 2008, 01:17 AM

has anyone seen any?

Jim McDougall · 14th September 2008, 04:05 AM

which period? region? Alaric in Rome? Hispania? Gaul? Iberia in 6th c. ?
I believe Migration period example found in France recently.

Ed · 14th September 2008, 04:12 AM

Yes, we have a very nice one here.

No, you cannot see it, silly person.

Seriously ... a paper on the subject from Soc. Anti. was just on ebay ... I'll see if I can find it.

Ed · 14th September 2008, 04:12 PM

Here ya go ... not an auction.

Quote:

Swords and Sequence in the British Bronze Age

by M. A. Brown

Journal Offprint from Archaeologia Volume 107, 1982, 42 pages, 9 line-figure, plus 3 full-page b/w plates of swords. A4, card cover, as new.

British and continental archaeologists alike have long been beholden to J.D. Cowen for his interpretation of the bronze sword in Europe. His identification in 1951 of Hemigkifen and Erbenheim types among South German Griffzungenschwerter, his recognition that these forms were basic to all subsequent sword development in the British Isles, and his dating of them to the Hallstatt A (Ha A) Urnfield phase have remained crucial in any interpretation of the British Late Bronze Age.

chevalier · 14th September 2008, 06:25 PM

i was thinking of the spanish period: 419-711 AD.

Marc · 15th September 2008, 11:21 AM

There is at least a couple of them in the Museo Arqueológico Nacional (National Archaeological Museum) in Madrid, but there's no hilts, only the blades and those are completely mineralized. As far as swords go, I'm not aware of any other exemplar excavated in Spain from that period, although it wouldn't be impossible that there was something in some local museum...
By the way, the Museo Arqueológico Nacionalis at the moment undergoing deep structural reforms, and it's going to be closed for about the next four years (that, being optimistic), so seeing them life can be a bit difficult, right now...

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14th September 2008, 04:05 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,733	which period? region? Alaric in Rome? Hispania? Gaul? Iberia in 6th c. ? I believe Migration period example found in France recently.

14th September 2008, 04:12 AM	#3
Ed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 189	Yes, we have a very nice one here. No, you cannot see it, silly person. Seriously ... a paper on the subject from Soc. Anti. was just on ebay ... I'll see if I can find it.

14th September 2008, 06:25 PM	#5
chevalier Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 119	i was thinking of the spanish period: 419-711 AD.

15th September 2008, 11:21 AM	#6
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	There is at least a couple of them in the Museo Arqueológico Nacional (National Archaeological Museum) in Madrid, but there's no hilts, only the blades and those are completely mineralized. As far as swords go, I'm not aware of any other exemplar excavated in Spain from that period, although it wouldn't be impossible that there was something in some local museum... By the way, the Museo Arqueológico Nacionalis at the moment undergoing deep structural reforms, and it's going to be closed for about the next four years (that, being optimistic), so seeing them life can be a bit difficult, right now...