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Old 24th June 2007, 10:07 AM   #1
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Hi all,
I got this kudi. The seller told :" the blade is not one of these lots of fakes..... it is antique". I like to have Your comments about the "antiquity" of the blade and on the whole item (I never saw a similar one), whose origin should be West Java (Java Barat).
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Old 24th June 2007, 11:08 AM   #2
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Hey guys

Didn't we get shots for them kudies when we were kids


Very interesting dagger.

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Old 25th June 2007, 06:46 AM   #3
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Hai Paolo....
nice colection....
but please beware...

this pictures just my ilustration.... (sorry i copy frm your picture)


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note:just for my study
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Old 26th June 2007, 01:01 AM   #4
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Do you think this is a recent manufacture?
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Old 26th June 2007, 02:42 AM   #5
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Do you think this is a recent manufacture?
My first thoughts too. Reminds me of Valiant Co pieces... [ examples here ], [ more ].

However, the curvature of this piece is 'straighter' than the Valiant Co examples.

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Old 26th June 2007, 03:49 AM   #6
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My first thoughts too. Reminds me of Valiant Co pieces... [ examples here ], [ more ].

However, the curvature of this piece is 'straigther' than the Valaint Co examples.
My thoughts as well.
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Old 26th June 2007, 10:14 AM   #7
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My thoughts as well.
Me too. But I have seen it somewhere in a local keris shop, exactly the same with that macan (tiger) hilt. The blade sure looks thick.
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Old 26th June 2007, 02:52 AM   #8
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...this pictures just my ilustration.... (sorry i copy frm your picture)
note:just for my study
Cahaya, I don't understand what is it that you're trying to convey from your illustration? Please enlighten me...
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Old 26th June 2007, 04:37 AM   #9
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...I don't understand what is it that you're trying to convey from your illustration? Please enlighten me...
Hi alam

... i dont understand too abaut what i'm doing , i'm try to imaging if i have spear (a big one) n try to make a kudi ..... ,..can i..?
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Old 26th June 2007, 05:02 AM   #10
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Hi alam

... i dont understand too abaut what i'm doing , i'm try to imaging if i have spear (a big one) n try to make a kudi ..... ,..can i..?
I guess, it's possible to make one.
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Old 26th June 2007, 10:09 AM   #11
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Surely my kudi looks similar to the Valiant Co, but IMO is of an higher quality. I know that with arsenic bathes is possible to have an older blade, but the pamor has a good patina, that doesn't seems dued to repeated washes. Also the wood looks old, but I guess newer than the blade.
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Old 26th June 2007, 08:28 PM   #12
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Default kudi

Hi all,
Sorry but this seems to be a nice reproduction.
The blade texture Or patine looks be etched into the blade.
The dapur is not like the old ones. (to perfect holes and outlinings)
Nice but Modern sarong.
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Old 27th June 2007, 01:18 AM   #13
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Dear All,
I've posted before, these pictures of kudi and kudi-daun (leaf-kudi) in another thread. I hope it is still useful for comparison. The kudi's sheath, is 20th century Surakarta's style with "sunggingan" (wayang ornamenting).

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Old 27th June 2007, 03:30 AM   #14
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My broken Kujang Badak mata 3. Nothing spectacular... just for comparison.
Also known as Kujang cengkok Mangku Alam.
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Old 17th July 2007, 03:38 AM   #15
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This is more comparison on kudi, or West Javanese people say as Kujang... Sorry for not cleaning it yet. I hope it is not wasting your time..

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