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28th June 2015, 04:43 AM | #1 | |
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It has a boxier form, and a rudimentary beard, from the looks of the photo. A "kampung"" quality hilt, which is still nice, but not exactly an archetype form to do deep analysis on. |
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28th June 2015, 09:56 AM | #2 |
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28th June 2015, 09:58 AM | #3 | |
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First time I heard the term Kampung quality hilt... : ı thought all Keris are made in some kampong somewhere during the ancient days... Last edited by maxbliss888; 28th June 2015 at 01:10 PM. |
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28th June 2015, 03:47 PM | #4 |
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I meant good enough to wear around in the kampung, but not fine enough for the higher social strata. Sorry, this sounds politically incorrect, but that's the way art is. The centre of wealth and political power breeds high excellence in artistic expression which form the pinnacles of art that ordinary folks copy, emulate and aspire to own/consume. Like all facsimiles, definition is lost in the process.
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29th June 2015, 07:36 AM | #5 | |
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My guess is that it depends on which angle you prefer to see it. Keris as a weapon or Keris as a status symbol... |
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29th June 2015, 08:20 AM | #6 |
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Yes, indeed.
To be even more provocative, some kerises are not good enough for the social higher strata, and at the same time, they make poor weapons too. So what do we make of these kerises? "Old" not equals "good" or "bad" "New" not equals "bad" or "good" Likewise for "simple" and "complex" But I think we have digressed a bit frm the original point I wanted to make, but I suspect was not conveyed adequately - that a "kampung" quality hilt does not adhere very strictly to archetypal forms. You get all sorts of variations and unusual features. From my experience, it is usually a futile exercise trying to classify these examples definitively. Sometimes, they are just amalgamations of influences and even the whims and fancies of the maker. So this is to be read in relation to your question/statement - this looks like a tajong, but is actually a coteng. The first rule of collecting is to collect what you like. Happy learning about the keris, and then collecting it! |
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29th June 2015, 12:32 PM | #8 |
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