Assistance with Borneo item

colin henshaw · 12th March 2012, 03:55 PM

Hi

I acquired this heavy chopping type of implement recently (needs some cleaning), which came with a group of Borneo objects. Length is approximately 58cm.

Can anyone help to identify it... Dayak perhaps ?

Comments are welcome and thanks in advance.

colin henshaw · 16th March 2012, 08:06 AM

Anyone have an idea about this piece ?

Henk · 16th March 2012, 11:00 AM

It could be a form of kujang.

Gavin Nugent · 16th March 2012, 11:08 AM

The auctioneer asked me the same thing. I suggested it is was a Ruding Lengon.

Gav

Royston · 16th March 2012, 05:42 PM

Colin.

I do not think it is Dayak. Mainly because I cannot think of anything similar from Borneo.
Is the whole thing metal or is that a short handle in the right of the photo ?
The curved end to the blade is more like some Ram Dao forms but I do not think it is from Nepal.
The holes along the back are more similar to those on some Kudi. I would vote for Java.

Regards
Roy

Henk · 16th March 2012, 09:01 PM

Gav, I think you're right. Ruding Lengon from Java. There is a drawing in the book by Van Zonneveld but is also found on the internet.

colin henshaw · 18th March 2012, 01:36 PM

Many thanks to those who contributed for the assistance on this item.

Regards.

VVV · 18th March 2012, 03:31 PM

I am sorry to be a party pooper but I don't think it's a Ruding Lengon.
The edge is on the wrong side of the blade and the handle is not correct.

Michael

PS Maybe Kujang, like Henk suggested, is closer?

Rick · 18th March 2012, 03:37 PM

More pictures than just one smallish overall shot might help with further observations as to origin .

colin henshaw · 19th March 2012, 01:36 PM

Here are some more images. The centre grip part is of turned wood, and the iron finial is faceted.

More opinions welcome.

Regards.

VVV · 19th March 2012, 01:58 PM

Rick was correct, close ups did help a lot.
I think it is a Javanese kudi (not kujang, sorry for the confusion but I often mix them up on which is which).
The holes and the fret work are more Javanese in style than what it looked like from watching the first picture.
Several resembling kudi variations can be found in the Leiden collection database.

Michael

12th March 2012, 03:55 PM	#1
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Assistance with Borneo item Hi I acquired this heavy chopping type of implement recently (needs some cleaning), which came with a group of Borneo objects. Length is approximately 58cm. Can anyone help to identify it... Dayak perhaps ? Comments are welcome and thanks in advance. Attached Images

18th March 2012, 03:31 PM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I am sorry to be a party pooper but I don't think it's a Ruding Lengon. The edge is on the wrong side of the blade and the handle is not correct. Michael PS Maybe Kujang, like Henk suggested, is closer? Last edited by VVV; 18th March 2012 at 04:00 PM.

18th March 2012, 03:37 PM	#9
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	The Devil Is In The Details More pictures than just one smallish overall shot might help with further observations as to origin .

19th March 2012, 01:36 PM	#10
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Here are some more images. The centre grip part is of turned wood, and the iron finial is faceted. More opinions welcome. Regards. Attached Images

16th March 2012, 08:06 AM	#2
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Anyone have an idea about this piece ?

16th March 2012, 11:00 AM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	It could be a form of kujang.

16th March 2012, 11:08 AM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	The auctioneer asked me the same thing. I suggested it is was a Ruding Lengon. Gav

16th March 2012, 05:42 PM	#5
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 441	Colin. I do not think it is Dayak. Mainly because I cannot think of anything similar from Borneo. Is the whole thing metal or is that a short handle in the right of the photo ? The curved end to the blade is more like some Ram Dao forms but I do not think it is from Nepal. The holes along the back are more similar to those on some Kudi. I would vote for Java. Regards Roy

16th March 2012, 09:01 PM	#6
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Gav, I think you're right. Ruding Lengon from Java. There is a drawing in the book by Van Zonneveld but is also found on the internet.

18th March 2012, 01:36 PM	#7
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Many thanks to those who contributed for the assistance on this item. Regards.

19th March 2012, 01:58 PM	#11
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Rick was correct, close ups did help a lot. I think it is a Javanese kudi (not kujang, sorry for the confusion but I often mix them up on which is which). The holes and the fret work are more Javanese in style than what it looked like from watching the first picture. Several resembling kudi variations can be found in the Leiden collection database. Michael