Arms and armor of a muslim bowyer!

Aqtai · 14th January 2007, 08:07 PM

If you are planning on doing a 15th-16th century Ottoman sipahi (armoured cavalry/horse-archer), check out these threads, you may find them helpful:

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=71813
http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=72695

BTW, that's nice stuff you've got there.

All the best.

Tim Simmons · 14th January 2007, 08:59 PM

While we are on the subject of archery. The English longbow was a devastating weapon in the hands of commoners bring down the elite on horse back therefore having tremendous impact on West European warfare in the middle ages. Well in England and France, Wales and Scotland anyway.

Zifir · 15th January 2007, 05:05 PM

You might wanna check this out:

http://www.kassai.at/
http://www.grozerarchery.com/

Tane · 16th January 2007, 03:21 PM

Thank you very much for your help!

wolviex · 17th January 2007, 12:05 PM

Hello!
Below you'll find just a few pictures from books I had just at the hand.
You should get few book like:

War and Peace. Ottoman-Polish Relations in the 15th-19th c. - great catalogue from exhibition in Istanbul and Warsaw 1999 vastly illustrated (in Polish version 'Wojna i Pokoj' from time to time available on ebay)

B&W picture is from the book by Zdzislaw Zygulski, Ottoman art in the service of the Empire, NY 1992 -there is a small chapter on arms too, but it isn't necessary.

I believe you already have Turkish Archery and the composite bow by Paul E. Klopsteg (1947) devoted just to this subject.

regards!

Tane · 17th January 2007, 04:38 PM

Really beautiful!!! Thanks a lot!

nKante · 17th January 2007, 09:52 PM

Could some of those quivers also carry the bow? The curving shapes suggest the potential. But in all the illustrations I've seen, the bow is in use. I have seen a few drawings that showed the archers with the bows slung over the shoulder. But this seems too dangerous of a way to transport a valuable instrument. On closer inspection... Are some quivers and others bow cases?

17th January 2007, 12:05 PM	#5
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	Hello! Below you'll find just a few pictures from books I had just at the hand. You should get few book like: War and Peace. Ottoman-Polish Relations in the 15th-19th c. - great catalogue from exhibition in Istanbul and Warsaw 1999 vastly illustrated (in Polish version 'Wojna i Pokoj' from time to time available on ebay) B&W picture is from the book by Zdzislaw Zygulski, Ottoman art in the service of the Empire, NY 1992 -there is a small chapter on arms too, but it isn't necessary. I believe you already have Turkish Archery and the composite bow by Paul E. Klopsteg (1947) devoted just to this subject. regards! Attached Images

14th January 2007, 08:07 PM	#1
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	If you are planning on doing a 15th-16th century Ottoman sipahi (armoured cavalry/horse-archer), check out these threads, you may find them helpful: http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=71813 http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=72695 BTW, that's nice stuff you've got there. All the best.

14th January 2007, 08:59 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,742	While we are on the subject of archery. The English longbow was a devastating weapon in the hands of commoners bring down the elite on horse back therefore having tremendous impact on West European warfare in the middle ages. Well in England and France, Wales and Scotland anyway.

15th January 2007, 05:05 PM	#3
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	You might wanna check this out: http://www.kassai.at/ http://www.grozerarchery.com/

16th January 2007, 03:21 PM	#4
Tane Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7	Thank you very much for your help!

17th January 2007, 04:38 PM	#6
Tane Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7	Really beautiful!!! Thanks a lot!

17th January 2007, 09:52 PM	#7
nKante Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 72	Could some of those quivers also carry the bow? The curving shapes suggest the potential. But in all the illustrations I've seen, the bow is in use. I have seen a few drawings that showed the archers with the bows slung over the shoulder. But this seems too dangerous of a way to transport a valuable instrument. On closer inspection... Are some quivers and others bow cases?