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Old 12th May 2007, 04:20 PM   #181
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Thumbs up frugal repast

Got this today. 102cm long. I have been admiring it all afternoon with very cold lager and some lovely biltong a local South African chap down the road makes. Rather nice .
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Old 12th May 2007, 05:59 PM   #182
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Talking Cheap, cheap, cheap

I found this one recently at an antique market.

I think it's a Hadendoa dagger. Don't think it's very old, but it's complete with its leather sheath. And............it was cheap at only 5 Euro.





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Old 20th February 2008, 12:27 AM   #183
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Thanks Ron.

Very helpful information on that site. So the Tagbanua people are animists who happened to have lived under the Brunei Sultanate for a few hundred years, as well as enduring Western rule from the Spanish and Americans.

Seems an interesting group. One of the curiosities, at least to me, of language distributions in the Philippines today is that the main language on Palawan is Tagalog. Now Tagalog is the language of the major group on Luzon, but it is a fair distance from Luzon to Palawan, and parts of the Visayas are in between. When I ask locals why Tagalog is spoken on Palawan, they simply say it is part of the Tagalog Region. Anyone have a more specific answer?

Ian.
This is simply due to migration from parts of the Philippines with high population densities to areas with lower ones, resulting in the natives of those regions being reduced to minorities, and eventually, assimilated. This isnt something unique to Palawan. The large island of Mindoro, which lies between Palawan and the Tagalog speaking areas of Luzon has shared the same fate. Much of Mindanao has been turned into a Visayan "lebensraum" and Cebuano is now the lingua franca of much of the region. Similarly, the Ilocanos have spread out from their core Ilocos region and have Ilocanized most of northern Luzon.

Palawan has a lot of native languages, Tagbanwa is not the only one. There is also the Palawan language, as well as other tribal tongues. Interestingly, the Tagbanwa are amongst the few peoples of the Philippines who continue to use native writing systems of Brahmi (Sanskrit alphabet) origin.

I think in a couple of generations, we are going to see a drastic reduction in the number of languages and ethnic groups in the Philippines.
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Old 20th February 2008, 06:50 AM   #184
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This was subject of earlier thread. Managed to "extract" it from its owner, and it now lives with the rest of my Dha.
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Old 20th February 2008, 03:35 PM   #185
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As a lover of cross cultural pieces, I am absolutely in love with this "dha-war".

Very interesting. Do you think it was all "born together", or composite, and if composite, older or younger??

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 20th February 2008, 05:20 PM   #186
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As a lover of cross cultural pieces, I am absolutely in love with this "dha-war".

Very interesting. Do you think it was all "born together", or composite, and if composite, older or younger??

Thanks for sharing.
Hi Charles,
Refer previous thread dated 30th January "Help with Identification Please". All discussion re this item is there.
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Old 19th May 2011, 08:41 AM   #187
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Three more from todays gun show excursion. One in need of dental repair.
hey, he reminds me of mang isko, the drunk that used to hung around nanay pacing's carenderia, LOL...
Personally, that monster hilt reminded me of my Tito Boy. He loves his lambanog.



On another note, I thought I would revive this thread in case anyone wanted to share a new acquisition, but did not want to start a new thread on their newfound piece.

I have a couple of kris coming in that I find particularly simple (but well done) and would not generate enough discussion to warrant separate threads (WWII. separate gangya. both maranao. I love 'em as much as someone can love an inanimate object, but that's basically all that could be said about these pieces to be honest.) That being said, I thought it would be wise for me to post them here once they arrive, since I am still anxious to share them.

Pics when they come in!

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Old 19th May 2011, 10:57 AM   #188
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On another note, I thought I would revive this thread in case anyone wanted to share a new acquisition, but did not want to start a new thread on their newfound piece.

That's really funny, just yesterday I read this thread again und thought about to reactivate it again.

I am curious to see your new babys!

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Old 19th May 2011, 11:41 AM   #189
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hahahahaha! everyone has a tito boy, but why is it that there's no tita girl ?
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Old 19th May 2011, 11:55 AM   #190
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Kamagong pommel with ivory inlays; 6 1/2" long and 2" wide. 16" laminated blade. in comparison with two other junggayans on the bottom pic
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Old 19th May 2011, 12:56 PM   #191
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Magnificent Spunjer!...you know one of those is my "dream piece!"
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Old 19th May 2011, 01:05 PM   #192
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Note taken, Charles, hehe...
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Old 20th May 2011, 12:00 AM   #193
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Nice pieces. Perdy!
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Old 21st May 2011, 06:36 PM   #194
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Very purdy indeed. The Ivory and Gold combination is beautiful.
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Old 21st May 2011, 11:05 PM   #195
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Magnificent Spunjer!...you know one of those is my "dream piece!"
Ron, can you make a note that I want the other 2 that Charles doesn't want? ;-)

Here my latest acquisition to share!

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Old 22nd May 2011, 12:45 AM   #196
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I took a one-week long smithing class and made this. Yes, I have videos of me hammering the red-hot steel.

I was inspired by the 12th century sword “Hocho Masamune". The "yaki-ire", quenching the steel to harden it after applying clay to the blade, came out perfectly, and the hamon is clearly visible.

My friend and colleague Michael Bell of Dragonfly Forge taught the class. I made the sheath and handle, sort of "Shira-saya" style, after I got back.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 02:46 AM   #197
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One of my dream pieces. Ron has the only one I ever saw that was similar. I very much admire the way he acquired it! Scratch and sniff!!"

This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak. "Unless you are a king." Well-known Moro authority told me. Perhaps both of these were made for kings?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 08:59 AM   #198
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"This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak"

Not more then other human beings

beautiful pieces all and lovely Craftmanship, Montino.

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Old 22nd May 2011, 09:31 AM   #199
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This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak. "Unless you are a king."
Weakens your budget, unless you are a king

Very nice piece. Love the structure of the ivory.

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Old 22nd May 2011, 01:09 PM   #200
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Weakens your budget, unless you are a king
Damn right there, my budget is very weak now

My thanks to a quiet member for helping me obtain this example.....hmmmmm gold

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Old 22nd May 2011, 02:44 PM   #201
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Amazing ! congrats Gav. Is it wootz?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 11:54 PM   #202
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Amazing ! congrats Gav. Is it wootz?
G'day Lofty,

No wootz but a very fine patterened blade. E.Astvatsaturyan shows a small line drawing of the same pattern in the work on Caucasian arms. The steel quality is amazing, extreme gratitude to he who made this available to me.

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Old 23rd May 2011, 07:25 AM   #203
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Wow, that's a beauty, maurice! Love the inlay work!
I think what Bill meant was the belief in old Mindanao, not necessarily Islam in general even at that point in time...
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Old 25th June 2011, 10:28 PM   #204
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My latest purchase - and not at all an inexpensive one. EIC lock, locally converted to percussion; silver inlaid barrel with cannon-form muzzle. Good, solid stock. Weighs a fair bit. Woven, multi-strand, hessian rope sling. Bloody beautiful old girl!
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Old 27th June 2011, 04:34 PM   #205
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These are the latest achievements of the past week.
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Old 29th April 2012, 10:04 PM   #206
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Last acquisition for a while. While biased in my preference towards older Sulu blades, I've found a new respect and admiration for the larger, broader pieces from Mindanao.

I've always wanted a straight Maranao battle piece ever since I saw Ferguson and Bill Marsh's collections of kris a few years ago on another forum. This one's a little more ornate than other ones I have seen, which are usually very spartan in the use of metal fittings and have some sort of rattan wrap or non-laquered jute wrap instead of the black laquered wrap that this one has.

Despite this, it does still seem like a very powerful, no-nonsense Kris.

Got it for what I consider a very reasonable price. Can't wait to handle this in person. If anyone has anything to add, I would be very appreciative. What social standing did the original owner belong to? etc etc.
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Nice and complete kris without sheath. Like the patina at the handle. Would guess that it is a good fighter so not from a person of special status.
Do you plan to etch the blade when you have received it?

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I agree nice Maranao piece.
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Old 30th April 2012, 05:45 PM   #209
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Thank you, gentlemen. I've always wanted a straight kris and having spoken with forum members Spunjer and harimauhk (among others) about it over the past couple of months, I've learned to really appreciate the broader and heavier Maranao and Maguindanao pieces, especially the more spartan "battle pieces", as they have been dubbed colloquially. Very no-nonsense, very beauiful in its austerity.

I most definitely do plan on etching it, Detlef. I do not have much experience in etching and FeCl is hard to come by in Canada (It used to be easier to get apparently, but by 2008 it became more difficult as chemicals are very strictly regulated), so I am currently practicing on modern blades using vinegar, lemon juice and pineapple juice to see which gets me a better result. After I have confidence in my etching abilities I will move onto genuine pieces like this one.
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I most definitely do plan on etching it, Detlef. I do not have much experience in etching and FeCl is hard to come by in Canada (It used to be easier to get apparently, but by 2008 it became more difficult as chemicals are very strictly regulated), so I am currently practicing on modern blades using vinegar, lemon juice and pineapple juice to see which gets me a better result. After I have confidence in my etching abilities I will move onto genuine pieces like this one.
I use vinegar and have had very good results!

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