new keris....Sumatra ?

Freddy · 8th July 2009, 06:10 PM

In the section 'Etnographic Weapons', I showed two Indonesian knives.

Here is the keris which belonged to the lot. I think it's from Sumatra, as are the two knives.

I won't say much about the keris. Please give you opinion.

Freddy · 8th July 2009, 06:12 PM

There is some damage to the piece. The nose of the handle was lost at some time, but the damage is old.

Also the sheath was (badly ?) repaired, but seems to be the original one.

Henk · 8th July 2009, 08:29 PM

Looks Palembang to me.

Sajen · 8th July 2009, 09:45 PM

Hi Freddy,

yes, an old Palembang keris. A heavy used example. How fit the blade inside the sheat? It seems all original to my eyes. When I am you I will clean the blade and give it a warangan and let the sheat and hilt like this.

sajen

David · 8th July 2009, 10:14 PM

Yep, i agree, Palembang from Sumatra. This looks to me to be a very well formed and graceful blade and i agree that it deserves a good cleaning and re-staining. If the sheath is a good fit i would try to restore it. As for the hilt, there is no restoring that unfortunately. I would shop around for the same style hilt, there are a lot of them out there.

Sajen · 8th July 2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by David

If the sheath is a good fit i would try to restore it. As for the hilt, there is no restoring that unfortunately. I would shop around for the same style hilt, there are a lot of them out there.

This is the other choice. But sometimes I like to keep a keris like this when it shows it's age and usage special when it have such a nice patination. But this is a personal taste.

sajen

asomotif · 8th July 2009, 11:51 PM

Nice old keris, Freddy.

Palembang as the others say, seems very right.
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I would keep it more or less as it is.
Maybe clean the farnisch of the scabbard and put on some wax.
The handle. shame about the nose, but as detlef says, it shows its age and with such a patina I would not replace it.

The blade. I don't like sumatra blades that are stained the javanese way.
would suggest to clean it gently and put on some oil to preserve it.
Very nice blade , gracefull.

Nice buy

Sajen · 9th July 2009, 01:13 PM

I don't like sumatra blades that are stained the javanese way.
would suggest to clean it gently and put on some oil to preserve it.
Very nice blade , gracefull.

Sorry Willem,

I think that special Palembang blades need a staining, the result can be very good. And I am nearly sure that this blade will show a nice pamor. All my Palembang blades have a very nice pamor. Here some examples. Sorry about the poor pics.

Detlef

8th July 2009, 06:10 PM	#1
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	new keris....Sumatra ? In the section 'Etnographic Weapons', I showed two Indonesian knives. Here is the keris which belonged to the lot. I think it's from Sumatra, as are the two knives. I won't say much about the keris. Please give you opinion.

8th July 2009, 11:51 PM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	Nice old keris, Freddy. Palembang as the others say, seems very right. More or less an HTML Code: out of the book example I would keep it more or less as it is. Maybe clean the farnisch of the scabbard and put on some wax. The handle. shame about the nose, but as detlef says, it shows its age and with such a patina I would not replace it. The blade. I don't like sumatra blades that are stained the javanese way. would suggest to clean it gently and put on some oil to preserve it. Very nice blade , gracefull. Nice buy Last edited by David; 9th July 2009 at 02:40 PM.

9th July 2009, 01:13 PM	#8
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,490	I don't like sumatra blades that are stained the javanese way. would suggest to clean it gently and put on some oil to preserve it. Very nice blade , gracefull. Sorry Willem, I think that special Palembang blades need a staining, the result can be very good. And I am nearly sure that this blade will show a nice pamor. All my Palembang blades have a very nice pamor. Here some examples. Sorry about the poor pics. Detlef Attached Images

8th July 2009, 06:12 PM	#2
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	There is some damage to the piece. The nose of the handle was lost at some time, but the damage is old. Also the sheath was (badly ?) repaired, but seems to be the original one.

8th July 2009, 08:29 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Looks Palembang to me.

8th July 2009, 09:45 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,490	Hi Freddy, yes, an old Palembang keris. A heavy used example. How fit the blade inside the sheat? It seems all original to my eyes. When I am you I will clean the blade and give it a warangan and let the sheat and hilt like this. sajen

8th July 2009, 10:14 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,025	Yep, i agree, Palembang from Sumatra. This looks to me to be a very well formed and graceful blade and i agree that it deserves a good cleaning and re-staining. If the sheath is a good fit i would try to restore it. As for the hilt, there is no restoring that unfortunately. I would shop around for the same style hilt, there are a lot of them out there.