Turkish Pala. Help with inscriptions.

arsendaday · 5th January 2016, 07:36 AM

Here is one of my recent buys.
Total length is 36" (straight line), the blade is 29" (straight line), the hilt 6.5" and the guard seems to be made of steel or iron. I think the guard and the hilt could be a recent restoration. There is also an inscription on the ridge of the blade. Please advice on the blade authenticity (makers mark? year?) and I would really appreciate any help with inscriptions.

eftihis · 5th January 2016, 06:07 PM

My friend, i am sorry to say this is a 100% newly made sword.

ALEX · 5th January 2016, 06:53 PM

Agree with Eftihis, this is newly made sword, including the blade.

Battara · 5th January 2016, 09:50 PM

I was wondering that myself.

harrywagner · 5th January 2016, 10:10 PM

Guys, please elaborate. This would have fooled me, and I would have bought it if given the chance. How did you determine it is newly made? TIA

Harry

ariel · 5th January 2016, 10:49 PM

These swords appear on e-bay regularly: from Beirut and from Turkey. They used to be advertised from Damascus, but I guess Syrian mail service had some problems recently.

Every part is "off": handle, blade, crossguard.

I am not going to elaborate: let the fakers guess what exactly is wrong with their junk.

Kubur · 6th January 2016, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by harrywagner

Guys, please elaborate. This would have fooled me, and I would have bought it if given the chance. How did you determine it is newly made? TIA
Harry

Hi Harry,

Yes sometimes members judgments are very frustrating.
Sometimes they are also completly wrong. Beware of that!
I'm afraid to say that they are so right for this one.
The best answer to your question is to look at the real ones.
Look at the details of the blade, guard, grips...
For me the worst is not the pure fakes, the worst is when sellers mix old and new. We have a lot of dealers on this forum, I'm sure they know what i'mean...

Kubur

5th January 2016, 07:36 AM	#1
arsendaday Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 44	Turkish Pala. Help with inscriptions. Here is one of my recent buys. Total length is 36" (straight line), the blade is 29" (straight line), the hilt 6.5" and the guard seems to be made of steel or iron. I think the guard and the hilt could be a recent restoration. There is also an inscription on the ridge of the blade. Please advice on the blade authenticity (makers mark? year?) and I would really appreciate any help with inscriptions. Attached Images

5th January 2016, 10:10 PM	#5
harrywagner Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 373	Yes, but why? Guys, please elaborate. This would have fooled me, and I would have bought it if given the chance. How did you determine it is newly made? TIA Harry

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5th January 2016, 06:07 PM	#2
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 500	My friend, i am sorry to say this is a 100% newly made sword.

5th January 2016, 06:53 PM	#3
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 935	Agree with Eftihis, this is newly made sword, including the blade.

5th January 2016, 09:50 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I was wondering that myself.

5th January 2016, 10:49 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	These swords appear on e-bay regularly: from Beirut and from Turkey. They used to be advertised from Damascus, but I guess Syrian mail service had some problems recently. Every part is "off": handle, blade, crossguard. I am not going to elaborate: let the fakers guess what exactly is wrong with their junk.