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Old 12th November 2018, 02:17 PM   #1
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Default Unknown dagger

Hi gents,
Can you please help me to identify this dagger?
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Old 12th November 2018, 10:00 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, Alex .
Let us see how challenging is to ID your dagger !
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Old 12th November 2018, 10:24 PM   #3
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Thank you Fernando.
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Old 13th November 2018, 01:27 AM   #4
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Welcome Alex.
Definitely not my field, but to me it LOOKS like a military type hanger of some sort (2 suspension rings). The blade could be from a shortened Lebel bayonet, but then I am only guessing. Hopefully someone will be able to identify more accurately.
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Old 13th November 2018, 12:48 PM   #5
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Looks to me like a typical soviet era eastern block/Russian style military parade dirk or dagger. I do not think it's a repurposed French bayonet. The AO mark may tell where it came from.
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I agree, it looks similar to Imperial Russian naval dirk, but it's not. Russian or Soviet daggers don't have riveted handles or brass scabbards.
In the last couple of years I’ve seen two more identical daggers with the same markings “AO”. So, looks like this could be officially issued dagger.
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Old 13th November 2018, 07:18 PM   #7
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What are the handle grips made of; bone ... plastic ?
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Old 14th November 2018, 08:11 AM   #8
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The handle grips made of bone.

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Old 14th November 2018, 11:35 AM   #9
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Yes, it looks like a naval dirk of some sort, but that construction is unusual.

What I can tell you is it's not a Lebel bayonet blade. The geometry is all wrong. The "flutes" on the Rosalie are much narrower and deeper, with side at square angle to each other and a radius at the bottom. The taper doesn't match either.
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Old 14th November 2018, 02:33 PM   #10
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Bpnjour,
Il faudrait se renseigner du coté des poignards de sous officier de l'Armée Impériale Russe vers la fin du XIXe. Il me semble que les officiers avaient des poignards avec une lame fort ressemblante mais avec fourreau de cuir et garniture de laiton.
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Old 14th November 2018, 04:46 PM   #11
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Bonjour,
Il faudrait se renseigner du coté des poignards de sous officier de l'Armée Impériale Russe vers la fin du XIXe. Il me semble que les officiers avaient des poignards avec une lame fort ressemblante mais avec fourreau de cuir et garniture de laiton.
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Hello,

It would be necessary to inquire on the side of the sub-officers (NCO) daggers of the Russian Imperial Army towards the end of the 19th century. It seems to me that the officers had daggers with a very similar blade but with leather scabbard and brass trim.
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Old 15th November 2018, 09:18 AM   #12
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Hi All,

The Russian 1891/30 Mosin Nagant Socket Bayonet also had a cruciform shape


As did a lot of Austrian and other Russian bayonets
Just google

Russian/Austrian Cruciform Bayonet

Here is a link the Mosin Nagant bayonet

http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Id...a/Russia_2.html


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Old 19th November 2018, 05:52 PM   #13
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