First posting/ Opinion asked, Possibly Execution tool?

Newbie Grandpa · 15th February 2018, 05:54 PM

Got this as an payment, for an work I have made for this estate, since last summer ( 2017 )
Hope to gain some info.
What I assume, from the little info I got; German speaking / mid European origin, propably mid to late 18th century item.
Have been originally intended to be instrument of person who has carried out death penalty, and propably used, because large amount of material has been lost, due repolishing atleat one side of the blade.
According family tradition, item has been at private? Museum at some where at Eastern Europe, until around 1990? when purchased,
Prior to that ( early 20th? century ) used to be at wall of local town hall / hall of Justice, at town where it was purchased.
I have show it at two local people, who said both that is is fantasy piece, another said that it is for theatre or play acting purposies, but both were willing to pay some nominal sum of it.
My main question is huge conflight of timing. Late owner thinking it is 18th
century and gun specialist saying that it is brand new chinese or 100 years old theatre propt

David R · 15th February 2018, 10:20 PM

Sword of Justice. Might be an executioners sword, but equally likely a reproduction, or a processional sword. My money would be on it being a municipal processional sword, and a damn nice thing to have.

shayde78 · 16th February 2018, 12:51 AM

Nice item.
I would NOT sell for a "nominal" price (unless selling to me! Lol).

fernando · 16th February 2018, 11:02 AM

Welcome to the forum, Newbie Grandpa

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Could you get a set of more accurate pictures ? Maybe that would help to define whther this sword is authentic or a modern replica.
And remember, not money talk in here

Newbie Grandpa · 16th February 2018, 05:03 PM

Here few from yesterday.

Just learn, how to compress images

Newbie Grandpa · 17th February 2018, 11:18 AM

Some close ups from different angle, of holding end

Newbie Grandpa · 17th February 2018, 11:22 AM

Hope that these give You some additional clues concerning age of the item

All suggestion, to what I should point to My camera, greatly appreciated

15th February 2018, 05:54 PM	#1
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	First posting/ Opinion asked, Possibly Execution tool? Got this as an payment, for an work I have made for this estate, since last summer ( 2017 ) Hope to gain some info. What I assume, from the little info I got; German speaking / mid European origin, propably mid to late 18th century item. Have been originally intended to be instrument of person who has carried out death penalty, and propably used, because large amount of material has been lost, due repolishing atleat one side of the blade. According family tradition, item has been at private? Museum at some where at Eastern Europe, until around 1990? when purchased, Prior to that ( early 20th? century ) used to be at wall of local town hall / hall of Justice, at town where it was purchased. I have show it at two local people, who said both that is is fantasy piece, another said that it is for theatre or play acting purposies, but both were willing to pay some nominal sum of it. My main question is huge conflight of timing. Late owner thinking it is 18th century and gun specialist saying that it is brand new chinese or 100 years old theatre propt Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 15th February 2018 at 08:27 PM.

16th February 2018, 05:03 PM	#5
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	Will do with in next week. What details I should focus? Here few from yesterday. Just learn, how to compress images Attached Images

17th February 2018, 11:18 AM	#6
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	New details 1/3 Some close ups from different angle, of holding end Attached Images

17th February 2018, 11:22 AM	#7
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	New details 2/3 Hope that these give You some additional clues concerning age of the item All suggestion, to what I should point to My camera, greatly appreciated Attached Images

15th February 2018, 10:20 PM	#2
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,051	Sword of Justice. Might be an executioners sword, but equally likely a reproduction, or a processional sword. My money would be on it being a municipal processional sword, and a damn nice thing to have.

16th February 2018, 12:51 AM	#3
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 443	Nice item. I would NOT sell for a "nominal" price (unless selling to me! Lol).

16th February 2018, 11:02 AM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,638	Welcome to the forum, Newbie Grandpa . Could you get a set of more accurate pictures ? Maybe that would help to define whther this sword is authentic or a modern replica. And remember, not money talk in here