MY FIRST BINANGON

Flavio · 18th May 2006, 04:45 PM

HELLO, THIS IS MY FIRST BINANGON, AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I LIKE IT VERY MUCH

AS YOU SEE THE HANDLE WAS LOOSE BUT WITH SOME CLOTH I WAS ABLE TO RE-CONNECTED THE HILT WITH THE BLADE AND NOW IS ALL VERY SOLID!!!!
JUST A QUESTION: DO YOU THINK THAT I HAVE OVERCLEANED THE FERRULE AND THE BRASS STRIPS ON THE SCABBARD? THANK YOU

ariel · 18th May 2006, 10:22 PM

It's like an old joke: a prospective groom is furious at his matchmaker because the bride-to-be is blind on one eye, has crooked teeth, broken nose, misses one ear, limps and is a hunchback. "Well', says the matchmaker," either you like Picasso or you don't"
Do you like patinated things showing age or shiny things, the way they left the workshop?
I think both are OK. Personally, I rather like the shiny brass on your Binangon. Very nice sword! enjoy it.

Flavio · 19th May 2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

I think both are OK. Personally, I rather like the shiny brass on your Binangon. Very nice sword! enjoy it.

Thank you Ariel, like you, i like shiny things too

Flavio · 20th May 2006, 01:50 PM

NO MORE COMMENTS???

Alam Shah · 20th May 2006, 02:01 PM

Hi Flavio,

Philippines weapons is not my area...but this one is real pretty. I especially love the blade, a well constructed piece. The scabbard is also nice. The hilt is ok, I've seen hilts with added silver/tint on the hilt (eyes, nose, fangs and cheeks...I think) which make it looks more awesome. Congrats! and enjoy.

Flavio · 21st May 2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Hi Flavio,

Philippines weapons is not my area...but this one is real pretty. I especially love the blade, a well constructed piece. The scabbard is also nice. The hilt is ok, I've seen hilts with added silver/tint on the hilt (eyes, nose, fangs and cheeks...I think) which make it looks more awesome. Congrats! and enjoy.

Thank you very much, Alam

Bill M · 25th September 2006, 01:13 PM

[QUOTE=ariel
Do you like patinated things showing age or shiny things, the way they left the workshop?
I think both are OK. Personally, I rather like the shiny brass on your Binangon. Very nice sword! enjoy it.[/QUOTE]

Flavio,

I agree with Ariel. I like the way your sword looks.

As far as shiny or patinated I try to understand the piece from the culture it came from and how they would keep their blades.

For instance it would be very wrong to keep a Javanese keris in old dress with heavy patination. IMHO the dress should be perfect and clean. Look like it was made yesterday and the blade also kept pristine and stained.

But this is an exception to my usual rule. I basically like warm, patinated old wood, or ivory, but I like the blades clear and clean. I believe most cultures kept their blades clean both from respect and preservation.

If there is repoussed or incised sliver, brass or bronze, I like to keep the patinaion in the crevices and just clean the surfce. This gives a nice depth to the metal, but if I overclean, it is easy to fix with "Liver of Sulphur."

I recently heavily cleaned an old Theyyam / temple sword. It is made of silver and had an overall dirty patination.

From the pictures of the current Thayyam in thier ritual trance dances, the silver always gleams. The sword I had was in a collection for many years and had acquired the overall dirty patination.

This felt very wrong.

Now it also gleams and seems happier. Can a sword feel????

I also try to communicate with the sword. I know this may sound strange, but I ask the sword to tell me how it wants to look. I may sit with it for hours in candle light meditation.

Most of the swords I acquire seem sadly neglected. And their spirits are sad. However after a bit of cleaning and some ren wax, a little smoke and they begin to brighten up.

While I am on this line of thought I also welcome them into my home and take them around and introduce them to my other pieces.

Metaphysically it gets a bit noisy at night when they are swapping stories!

Flavio · 25th September 2006, 01:23 PM

Cool Bill, this night i will try me too, but with two bottles of wine

!!
Thank you

18th May 2006, 04:45 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	MY FIRST BINANGON HELLO, THIS IS MY FIRST BINANGON, AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I LIKE IT VERY MUCH AS YOU SEE THE HANDLE WAS LOOSE BUT WITH SOME CLOTH I WAS ABLE TO RE-CONNECTED THE HILT WITH THE BLADE AND NOW IS ALL VERY SOLID!!!! JUST A QUESTION: DO YOU THINK THAT I HAVE OVERCLEANED THE FERRULE AND THE BRASS STRIPS ON THE SCABBARD? THANK YOU Attached Images

18th May 2006, 10:22 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	It's like an old joke: a prospective groom is furious at his matchmaker because the bride-to-be is blind on one eye, has crooked teeth, broken nose, misses one ear, limps and is a hunchback. "Well', says the matchmaker," either you like Picasso or you don't" Do you like patinated things showing age or shiny things, the way they left the workshop? I think both are OK. Personally, I rather like the shiny brass on your Binangon. Very nice sword! enjoy it.

20th May 2006, 01:50 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	NO MORE COMMENTS???

20th May 2006, 02:01 PM	#5
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Flavio, Philippines weapons is not my area...but this one is real pretty. I especially love the blade, a well constructed piece. The scabbard is also nice. The hilt is ok, I've seen hilts with added silver/tint on the hilt (eyes, nose, fangs and cheeks...I think) which make it looks more awesome. Congrats! and enjoy.

25th September 2006, 01:13 PM	#7
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	[QUOTE=ariel Do you like patinated things showing age or shiny things, the way they left the workshop? I think both are OK. Personally, I rather like the shiny brass on your Binangon. Very nice sword! enjoy it.[/QUOTE] Flavio, I agree with Ariel. I like the way your sword looks. As far as shiny or patinated I try to understand the piece from the culture it came from and how they would keep their blades. For instance it would be very wrong to keep a Javanese keris in old dress with heavy patination. IMHO the dress should be perfect and clean. Look like it was made yesterday and the blade also kept pristine and stained. But this is an exception to my usual rule. I basically like warm, patinated old wood, or ivory, but I like the blades clear and clean. I believe most cultures kept their blades clean both from respect and preservation. If there is repoussed or incised sliver, brass or bronze, I like to keep the patinaion in the crevices and just clean the surfce. This gives a nice depth to the metal, but if I overclean, it is easy to fix with "Liver of Sulphur." I recently heavily cleaned an old Theyyam / temple sword. It is made of silver and had an overall dirty patination. From the pictures of the current Thayyam in thier ritual trance dances, the silver always gleams. The sword I had was in a collection for many years and had acquired the overall dirty patination. This felt very wrong. Now it also gleams and seems happier. Can a sword feel???? I also try to communicate with the sword. I know this may sound strange, but I ask the sword to tell me how it wants to look. I may sit with it for hours in candle light meditation. Most of the swords I acquire seem sadly neglected. And their spirits are sad. However after a bit of cleaning and some ren wax, a little smoke and they begin to brighten up. While I am on this line of thought I also welcome them into my home and take them around and introduce them to my other pieces. Metaphysically it gets a bit noisy at night when they are swapping stories!

25th September 2006, 01:23 PM	#8
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Cool Bill, this night i will try me too, but with two bottles of wine !! Thank you