Help with translation

mahratt · 2nd February 2016, 11:08 AM

Dear participants of the forum, please help translate the inscriptions on the blade sword.

Battara · 2nd February 2016, 04:35 PM

Looks like an Afgani hilt and guard with Persian wootz.

mahratt · 2nd February 2016, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Looks like an Afgani hilt and guard with Persian wootz.

Yes, it is the Afghan saber with a Persian blade .

I was told that on the blades are written suras from the Koran. But I would like to know which suras (exactly which words are written there).

AJ1356 · 2nd February 2016, 07:21 PM

It is Afghan all the way including the blade, most likely specially ordered for a government official. The inscription claims to be a saying of the Messenger of God, something one of our Arabic speaker can easily translate. The part in gold is Farsi, if you post a better picture I can try to translate it for you.

Kubur · 2nd February 2016, 07:28 PM

I don't understand.
I have the feeling that the hilt is regular Afghan pattern
with an English ricasso on the blade,
plus an Arabic engraved inscription COVERED BY
a Persian inscription with gold inlay...pfffffff
Really exiting!!!!

mahratt · 2nd February 2016, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ1356

It is Afghan all the way including the blade, most likely specially ordered for a government official. The inscription claims to be a saying of the Messenger of God, something one of our Arabic speaker can easily translate. The part in gold is Farsi, if you post a better picture I can try to translate it for you.

Thank you. Here is a photo.

mahratt · 3rd February 2016, 07:46 PM

No opinions for the translation?

mahratt · 5th February 2016, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ1356

The part in gold is Farsi, if you post a better picture I can try to translate it for you.

AJ1356, really looking forward to your help

AJ1356 · 6th February 2016, 03:35 AM

Sorry it took me awhile to get back but as mentioned before school work prevents me from being on here much.
so there are 4 lines, the first is [yaa Allah khair] which basically seeking goodness from God.
The second through the fourth is a poem but I can not make out the 3rd line[ze sosun tura tool] {Your length from Iris (the flower)}
[unintelligible]
[khoon raiz tar] {(roughly meaning)able to she more blood}

great find again, this was made in Kabul sometime within the last 100 years very fine and unique piece.

2nd February 2016, 11:08 AM	#1
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	Help with translation Dear participants of the forum, please help translate the inscriptions on the blade sword. Attached Images

2nd February 2016, 04:35 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Looks like an Afgani hilt and guard with Persian wootz.

2nd February 2016, 07:21 PM	#4
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	It is Afghan all the way including the blade, most likely specially ordered for a government official. The inscription claims to be a saying of the Messenger of God, something one of our Arabic speaker can easily translate. The part in gold is Farsi, if you post a better picture I can try to translate it for you.

2nd February 2016, 07:28 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I don't understand. I have the feeling that the hilt is regular Afghan pattern with an English ricasso on the blade, plus an Arabic engraved inscription COVERED BY a Persian inscription with gold inlay...pfffffff Really exiting!!!!

3rd February 2016, 07:46 PM	#7
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	No opinions for the translation?

6th February 2016, 03:35 AM	#9
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	Sorry it took me awhile to get back but as mentioned before school work prevents me from being on here much. so there are 4 lines, the first is [yaa Allah khair] which basically seeking goodness from God. The second through the fourth is a poem but I can not make out the 3rd line[ze sosun tura tool] {Your length from Iris (the flower)} [unintelligible] [khoon raiz tar] {(roughly meaning)able to she more blood} great find again, this was made in Kabul sometime within the last 100 years very fine and unique piece.