Kalasan?

Nagawarrior · 3rd June 2006, 09:50 PM

It was my lucky day at the gun show. I think I found a Kalasan from Sumatra. At least that is what my research suggests. What do you all think?
Any idea of age? O.A. length is about 31 inches. Looks like silver on the handle. Not sure about the scabbard bands. hilt is horn. The Choil at the base of the blade is killer. Not sure its called a Choil on these.
Stephen*

Flavio · 3rd June 2006, 11:02 PM

Stephen, what a lucky guy

!! A very beautiful kalasan!! I think that the hilt is a SUKUL NGANGA type, according to Van Z. Congratulations

RhysMichael · 3rd June 2006, 11:50 PM

what a reat find, grats

Nagawarrior · 4th June 2006, 12:05 AM

Thanks guys. I've been going to shows for years and haven't been so lucky. If I did find pieces they were way overpriced. Guess I've been a good boy lately.
I can't help but notice, that the blade is similar in shape to that of a Flyssa. The swell is closer to the tip, yes, but there is a striking similarity. Interesting I think.
Whats the deal with the "choil"? Its so interesting. What a minute. I just had an thought, ouch. The "choil" is very much like the part of the Keris called the Greneng. Interesting.

kino · 4th June 2006, 05:45 AM

Good catch, Naga Warrior. Did you pick this up at the Riverside Show.

Nagawarrior · 4th June 2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kino

Good catch, Naga Warrior. Did you pick this up at the Riverside Show.

Riverside doesn't have a gun show. So I go to the Orange County gun show at the fair grounds. I always see the same couple of Japanese sword dealers there. It's the odd table where you find the good deals. I found this Gaucho knife there last year. Check out the hot babe on the belt clip.

Nagawarrior · 5th June 2006, 01:41 AM

Does anyone have pictures of the warriors that would carry the Kalasan?
It would be great if you could post them.
I've ordered a couple books to study the weapons of the Indonesian archipelago. One is Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago. Any other suggestions?
The more I study the Kalasan the more I love it. Its just a fantastic sword. It feels so good in the hand. I noticed a small chip in the cutting edge in the center of the blade swell. I've been told that the chips usually mean the blade has incountered bone. If there is a "V" shaped nick it is another sword blade. Any ideas on the validity of this? It feels like it would have been a great cutting slashing and chopping weapon. I also found an Indonesian martial arts book, The Weapons and Fighting Arts of Indonesia , I hope will inlighten me as to the use of this weapon.
I hope you all can help out a little more. Thanks for everything so far.

3rd June 2006, 09:50 PM	#1
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	Kalasan? It was my lucky day at the gun show. I think I found a Kalasan from Sumatra. At least that is what my research suggests. What do you all think? Any idea of age? O.A. length is about 31 inches. Looks like silver on the handle. Not sure about the scabbard bands. hilt is horn. The Choil at the base of the blade is killer. Not sure its called a Choil on these. Stephen*

4th June 2006, 12:05 AM	#4
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	Thanks guys. I've been going to shows for years and haven't been so lucky. If I did find pieces they were way overpriced. Guess I've been a good boy lately. I can't help but notice, that the blade is similar in shape to that of a Flyssa. The swell is closer to the tip, yes, but there is a striking similarity. Interesting I think. Whats the deal with the "choil"? Its so interesting. What a minute. I just had an thought, ouch. The "choil" is very much like the part of the Keris called the Greneng. Interesting. Last edited by Nagawarrior; 4th June 2006 at 12:19 AM.

3rd June 2006, 11:02 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Stephen, what a lucky guy !! A very beautiful kalasan!! I think that the hilt is a SUKUL NGANGA type, according to Van Z. Congratulations

3rd June 2006, 11:50 PM	#3
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	what a reat find, grats

4th June 2006, 05:45 AM	#5
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 975	Good catch, Naga Warrior. Did you pick this up at the Riverside Show.

5th June 2006, 01:41 AM	#7
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	Does anyone have pictures of the warriors that would carry the Kalasan? It would be great if you could post them. I've ordered a couple books to study the weapons of the Indonesian archipelago. One is Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago. Any other suggestions? The more I study the Kalasan the more I love it. Its just a fantastic sword. It feels so good in the hand. I noticed a small chip in the cutting edge in the center of the blade swell. I've been told that the chips usually mean the blade has incountered bone. If there is a "V" shaped nick it is another sword blade. Any ideas on the validity of this? It feels like it would have been a great cutting slashing and chopping weapon. I also found an Indonesian martial arts book, The Weapons and Fighting Arts of Indonesia , I hope will inlighten me as to the use of this weapon. I hope you all can help out a little more. Thanks for everything so far.