Landean Pralamba Collection (part of)

Amuk Murugul · 20th May 2018, 05:02 AM

Hullo everybody!

Still in the middle of 'house-keeping'.
Thought I'd snap'n'post while they're out.
Just to show/share.
Hope it's of use to somebody.
Best,

1.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani w/ embossed white-metal wewer.
Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Patani w/ embossed white metal bands/ftgs.

2.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani w/ copper wewer and eyes.
Sheath: Wood Two-tone Majang Golekan Patani.

3.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani.
Sheath: Two-tone wood Majang Golekan Patani.

4.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Noengkoel Tandjoeng Patani.
Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Patani.

5.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Noengkoel Tandjoeng Patani.
Sheath:Wood Majang Golekan Patani.

6.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung.
Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Singgora w/ white-metal bands/ftgs.

7.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir TjawSteung.
Sheath: Wood one-piece.

8.
Handle: Wood Boeta Noengkoel Tandjoeng Patani.
Sheath: Wood, one-piece.

9.
Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Nanggahan Malaka.
Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ white-metal embossed-oversheath.

10.
Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Djanggotan.
Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ silver ftgs.

11.
Handle: Ivory Boeta Njengir w/ white-metal wewer and rings.
Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ white-metal embossed sheath and rings; ivory toe.

12.
Handle: White-metal Boeta Njanggejeng Gilek w/ white-metal wewer.
Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ bronze o/sheath in Widjaja-motif.

13.
Handle: White-metal Kitjaka w/ white-metal wewer.
Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan.

14.
Handle: Wood Kitjaka w/ white-metal wewer.
Sheath: Wood Djongkong.

15.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani (SLEMAN).
Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ soenggingan Barata.

16.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani (SLEMAN).
Sheath: Wood Saridjong w/ soenggingan alas-alasan.

17.
Handle: Wood Boeta Toengkoel w/ white-metal fangs, wewer, nose & golden eyes.
Sheath: Wood Saridjong.

18.
Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung.
Sheath: Wood Djongan.

19.
Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung.
Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Singgora w/ white-metal bands/ftgs.

20.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung.
Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Singgora w/ white-metal bands/ftgs.

21.
Handle: Wood Boeta Toengkoel.
Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan.

22.
Handle: Wood Hoeloe Boeta.
Sheath: Wood Kintjangwidjaja.

23.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njanggejeng w/ white-metal wewer.
Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ white-metal o/sheath showing Widjaja-motif.

24.
Handle: Horn Boeta Nanggahan .
Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ embossed white-metal o/sheath.

25.
Handle: Wood Boeta Njanggejeng Gilek w/ bronze wewer.
Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ white-metal hanger.

Paul de Souza · 20th May 2018, 07:38 AM

Pardon my ignorance but what collection is this? From a museum or a personal collection. Just taken by the the Tajong and coteng pieces and hilts.

Jean · 20th May 2018, 09:36 AM

Very nice collection, thanks! It is not my area of collecting but I am a bit surprised by the mixing of tajong style hilts and Javanese scabbards?
Regards

David · 20th May 2018, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Very nice collection, thanks! It is not my area of collecting but I am a bit surprised by the mixing of tajong style hilts and Javanese scabbards?
Regards

Well someone like tajong hilts for sure.

I agree with Jean. Seems like a very nice collection (though the blades themselves would tell more), but the tajong hilts mixed with the Javanese sheaths do not make much sense to my eye. Not sure that they make much sense on keris panjang either.

Jean · 20th May 2018, 04:12 PM

Hello Amuk,
The wood species names are unknown to me (majang, djongan, etc), do you know their equivalent in Bahasa Indonesia? And as David said, it would be nice to see the blades also and the detailed pics of the hilts.
Regards

Amuk Murugul · 20th May 2018, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Hello Amuk,
The wood species names are unknown to me (majang, djongan, etc), do you know their equivalent in Bahasa Indonesia? And as David said, it would be nice to see the blades also and the detailed pics of the hilts.
Regards

Hullo again Jean,

They are not wood species, rather the type of sheath, equivalent to the mainstream gayaman, ladrang etc. Apologies for the lack of punctuation.
Best,

Amuk Murugul · 20th May 2018, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Well someone like tajong hilts for sure.

I agree with Jean. Seems like a very nice collection (though the blades themselves would tell more), but the tajong hilts mixed with the Javanese sheaths do not make much sense to my eye. Not sure that they make much sense on keris panjang either.

Hullo David,

I deliberately didn't include the blades as it may detract from the fact that the pieces are grouped according to hilts. So my prime interest in this group is the hilts. The Djawa sheaths are used to remind me that the associated hilts are Djawa.The keris pandjang hilts are original to the kerises (popular until the end of the 19thC.).
I may do the blades at some time in the future, bit by bit. I'm not articulate enough and can only 11-finger type.

Best,

A. G. Maisey · 21st May 2018, 04:03 AM

Thank you for posting these images Amuk, very interesting.

You advise that the names you have used for the scabbards are in a language other than BI or Javanese, that the names you have used are not mainstream names.

May I ask the place and time when the names that you use for the scabbards would be recognised by a person who was keris literate?

Thank you.

David · 21st May 2018, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo David,

I deliberately didn't include the blades as it may detract from the fact that the pieces are grouped according to hilts. So my prime interest in this group is the hilts. The Djawa sheaths are used to remind me that the associated hilts are Djawa.The keris pandjang hilts are original to the kerises (popular until the end of the 19thC.).
I may do the blades at some time in the future, bit by bit. I'm not articulate enough and can only 11-finger type.

Best,

So, you are saying that you the hilts on #15,#16 and #17 are all modern creations that you know were carved in Jawa?
The collection is yours and you are free to dress them as you please, of course, but these hilts still look strange and out of place with those sheaths no matter where they were actually carved. Are the blades within the Jawa sheaths also from Jawa?

Amuk Murugul · 20th May 2018, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Very nice collection, thanks! It is not my area of collecting but I am a bit surprised by the mixing of tajong style hilts and Javanese scabbards?
Regards

Hullo Jean,

Well, just to remind me that those hilts were made in Sleman, central Java.

Best,

Amuk Murugul · 20th May 2018, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul de Souza

Pardon my ignorance but what collection is this? From a museum or a personal collection. Just taken by the the Tajong and coteng pieces and hilts.

Hullo Paul,

Just a sub-group of my personal collection.
Best,

20th May 2018, 05:02 AM	#1
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 457	Landean Pralamba Collection (part of) Hullo everybody! Still in the middle of 'house-keeping'. Thought I'd snap'n'post while they're out. Just to show/share. Hope it's of use to somebody. Best, 1. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani w/ embossed white-metal wewer. Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Patani w/ embossed white metal bands/ftgs. 2. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani w/ copper wewer and eyes. Sheath: Wood Two-tone Majang Golekan Patani. 3. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani. Sheath: Two-tone wood Majang Golekan Patani. 4. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Noengkoel Tandjoeng Patani. Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Patani. 5. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Noengkoel Tandjoeng Patani. Sheath:Wood Majang Golekan Patani. 6. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung. Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Singgora w/ white-metal bands/ftgs. 7. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir TjawSteung. Sheath: Wood one-piece. 8. Handle: Wood Boeta Noengkoel Tandjoeng Patani. Sheath: Wood, one-piece. 9. Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Nanggahan Malaka. Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ white-metal embossed-oversheath. 10. Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Djanggotan. Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ silver ftgs. 11. Handle: Ivory Boeta Njengir w/ white-metal wewer and rings. Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ white-metal embossed sheath and rings; ivory toe. 12. Handle: White-metal Boeta Njanggejeng Gilek w/ white-metal wewer. Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ bronze o/sheath in Widjaja-motif. 13. Handle: White-metal Kitjaka w/ white-metal wewer. Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan. 14. Handle: Wood Kitjaka w/ white-metal wewer. Sheath: Wood Djongkong. 15. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani (SLEMAN). Sheath: Wood Djongan w/ soenggingan Barata. 16. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tandjoeng Patani (SLEMAN). Sheath: Wood Saridjong w/ soenggingan alas-alasan. 17. Handle: Wood Boeta Toengkoel w/ white-metal fangs, wewer, nose & golden eyes. Sheath: Wood Saridjong. 18. Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung. Sheath: Wood Djongan. 19. Handle: White-metal Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung. Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Singgora w/ white-metal bands/ftgs. 20. Handle: Wood Boeta Njengir Tjawsteung. Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan Singgora w/ white-metal bands/ftgs. 21. Handle: Wood Boeta Toengkoel. Sheath: Wood Majang Golekan. 22. Handle: Wood Hoeloe Boeta. Sheath: Wood Kintjangwidjaja. 23. Handle: Wood Boeta Njanggejeng w/ white-metal wewer. Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ white-metal o/sheath showing Widjaja-motif. 24. Handle: Horn Boeta Nanggahan . Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ embossed white-metal o/sheath. 25. Handle: Wood Boeta Njanggejeng Gilek w/ bronze wewer. Sheath: Wood Djongkong w/ white-metal hanger. Attached Images Last edited by Amuk Murugul; 20th May 2018 at 09:55 PM.

20th May 2018, 07:38 AM	#2
Paul de Souza Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 65	Pardon my ignorance but what collection is this? From a museum or a personal collection. Just taken by the the Tajong and coteng pieces and hilts.

20th May 2018, 09:36 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Very nice collection, thanks! It is not my area of collecting but I am a bit surprised by the mixing of tajong style hilts and Javanese scabbards? Regards

20th May 2018, 04:12 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Amuk, The wood species names are unknown to me (majang, djongan, etc), do you know their equivalent in Bahasa Indonesia? And as David said, it would be nice to see the blades also and the detailed pics of the hilts. Regards

21st May 2018, 04:03 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,697	Thank you for posting these images Amuk, very interesting. You advise that the names you have used for the scabbards are in a language other than BI or Javanese, that the names you have used are not mainstream names. May I ask the place and time when the names that you use for the scabbards would be recognised by a person who was keris literate? Thank you.