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Old 1st November 2016, 11:53 AM   #1
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Default 16TH Century stiletto dagger ?

16TH Century stiletto dagger ?
It has a cruciform blade
O.L. 29 cm ; blade L. 19 cm
Any comment on it would be welcome.
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Old 1st November 2016, 12:26 PM   #2
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Isn't the blade a shortened one ? The handle, some crude replacement ? .
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Old 1st November 2016, 02:57 PM   #3
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Very confusing piece. I believe only the crossguard may come from a 16 c stiletto but the rest is of much more recent artisanal production.

Definitely not typical stiletto.
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Old 1st November 2016, 03:22 PM   #4
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Very interesting ; I think it may be more of a WW1 trench dagger;the blade looks to be made of a French Lebel bayonet.
Nice dagger !
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Old 1st November 2016, 04:33 PM   #5
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Hi
Thank you for your answers and opinions
I should have post before some more pics and add more dimensions.
The blade width at hilt 1.5 cm /8mm so can’t be from a French Lebel bayonet who blade width is about 13 mm.The wood show real sign of age,and the guard and blade corrosion are homogenous so should be from the same period. Yes the grip is crudely made or I would say basic but again seems really old and definitively not a recent work. Also Similar blade geometry are found in 16-17TH stiletto dagger.
Let see what other members think about this small dagger..
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Old 3rd November 2016, 12:13 PM   #6
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similar quillons are found in the 16th to 17th dagger
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