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22nd February 2017, 10:49 PM
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Meccan Mecca Jambiya source
Following Ibraheem example and his nice threads on the Omani khanjar.
I propose a thread on the so-called Meccan / Mecca Jambiya. Here are the threads connected to this topic: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...meccan+jambiya http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...meccan+jambiya http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...meccan+jambiya http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...meccan+jambiya http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...meccan+jambiya And some photos of Lawrence and his two famous Meccan jambiyas... Please post only Meccan jambiya not all the silver jambiya made in Yemen or SA... Thanks Kubur |
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25th February 2017, 03:06 AM
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See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...ale-90000.html which explains what happened to the famous dagger shown above after TE Lawrence went to a sitting ..and where a picture was taken in reverse showing the Jambia curving the wrong way...Oddly he seems to have left all of his items behind ~after which, years later they were sold as part of Lady Scotts estate;The lady who took the photographs.
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25th February 2017, 04:47 AM
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Christie's catalogue description of the Lawrence jambiya, and price realised:
Lot 47 SILVER-GILT MOUNTED ARAB JAMBIYA DAGGER. Ornately-tooled hilt and scabbard, curved blade. 30cm long. Price realised GBP 122,500 USD 191,713 Estimate GBP 60,000 - GBP 90,000 (USD 92,700 - USD 139,050) Change Currency Add to Interests SILVER-GILT MOUNTED ARAB JAMBIYA DAGGER. Ornately-tooled hilt and scabbard, curved blade. 30cm long. Exhibition history: National Portrait Gallery, 1988-89, no. 128, see the accompanying catalogue: Jeremy Wilson, T.E. Lawrence (National Portrait Gallery Publications, London, 1988), p.88; Imperial War Museum, 2005-6. A MAGNIFICENT SILVER-GILT DAGGER, PRESENTED TO LAWRENCE AFTER HIS TRIUMPH AT AQABA BY SHERIF NASIR. Returning to Cairo in July 1917 from the coup de main against Aqaba that would forever gild his reputation as the daring hero of Arabia, Lawrence found himself ‘daggerless and near naked’, as he would write to Lionel Curtis over a decade later. Sherif Abdullah, elder brother of Feisal and future ruler of the Transjordan, had presented Lawrence with his first dagger of silver gilt in Wadi Ais; from then on, a dagger belted onto the waistband of the flowing Arab robes he quickly adopted in the desert was to be a near-constant presence for the duration of the war. His letter to Curtis, of the 22 February 1929, detailed the three cherished blades he had owned; his first dagger he presented as a gift to the Howeitat chiefs in the Wadi Sirhan at the urging of Sherif Nasir – cousin of Feisal and Abdullah, who commanded the expedition alongside Lawrence and Abu ibu Tayi – an investment lavishly rewarded by the support of the Bedouin in the assault on Aqaba. Returning triumphant, anxious for a replacement, Lawrence travelled quickly to Jidda and then returned to Aqaba, where Nasir presented him with the present dagger, an honorific gift. Referred to in his letter as ‘Dagger III’, for he had taken advantage of his time in Jidda to commission another – small, gold – dagger to be made in Mecca (‘Dagger II’), he lamented its loss – as one of only ‘two daggers being still alive’ – after leaving it with Kathleen Scott, and continued: ‘I will try and see Lady Hilton Young [her married name] and ask tactfully if she thinks the silver one is hers or not’. Lawrence’s small gold dagger having been sold to Curtis for £125, and subsequently presented to All Souls’ College, Oxford, the present dagger – richly ornate and weighty both in physicality and historical significance – represents THE LAST OF LAWRENCE’S ARABIAN DAGGERS KNOWN TO SURVIVE IN PRIVATE HANDS. |
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25th February 2017, 08:16 AM
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Thank you guys
Here are the two Meccan jambiya from the MET... |
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25th February 2017, 08:19 AM
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the one of the Benaki Museum
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25th February 2017, 08:21 AM
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and finally two others early Meccan jambiya 1880-1920
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26th February 2017, 07:50 AM
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To complete this thread, here are some recent Meccan jambiya.
The one with the black belt is very good and i will place this kind of jambiya around 1930-50ties... the two others are very recent 1970ties until 1990... |
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26th February 2017, 12:03 PM
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Apparently the lot passed twice, i think in a row, what i have observed. I was watching it closely to get a feeling and learning the prices.
Last edited by Rick; 28th March 2017 at 02:24 AM. Reason: auction link |
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26th February 2017, 12:15 PM
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Well it's a very good example. It's not a Meccan jambiya as defined by collectors, but it's a jambiya from Mecca!
I guess the Meccan jambiya was defined by the ones hold by Lawrence... Your example has some clear Omani inspirations... Like this one, an Arab man in Jeddah, 1918... |
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5th March 2017, 10:49 PM
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27th March 2017, 07:30 PM
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The 'dagger from Mecca' is for sale again. This time for half of its previous estimates.
I still think it will remain unsold. Those jewels are not inserted symmetrically and that destroys a lot in my opinion, 
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27th March 2017, 09:53 PM
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Regards, Marius Last edited by Rick; 28th March 2017 at 02:25 AM. Reason: auction link |
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27th March 2017, 10:34 PM
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ohh ok sorry, then everybody forget my oppinion and only take the notice that it appeared again on the market
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28th March 2017, 01:41 PM
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28th March 2017, 01:42 PM
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28th March 2017, 01:43 PM
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28th March 2017, 03:57 PM
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It didnt sell twice in the last year and last week i saw it again with half of its previous estimates so i posted it again for anybody interrested + plus my personal opinion but that apparently didnt comply to the rules. |
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28th March 2017, 04:08 PM
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28th March 2017, 05:04 PM
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I take it, Medina, Mecca not so far |
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28th March 2017, 05:08 PM
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And i would like to add that even the so-called Meccan jambiya has strong similarities with jambiya from Western Yemen. It was called Meccan most probably because of the one(s) held by Lawrence. In fact it's all about Yemen and Jews... This shape expended in all the Hijaz and beyond as Hijaz was an Ottoman possession. Best, Kubur |
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29th March 2017, 05:43 PM
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This article appeared in the London "Evening Standard" newspaper of yesterday.
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8th April 2017, 03:28 PM
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Here is a photo of a group of Royalist fighters for the Iman with one wearing a Mecca Jambiya. I have not see many photos of these worn by Yemeni men.
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