REFERENCE ON KERIS DHAPUR

Naga Sasra · 1st May 2010, 12:17 AM

Alan,
While we wait for the for the complete page from Pak Ganja, attached find my copy of the GKP Harya Hadiwijaya book, front page, page with Kraton stamp and the following two pages.

A. G. Maisey · 1st May 2010, 12:46 AM

Thank you Erik.

It appears that you have a copy of the same book of which I have a copy.

In August 1988 I was offered this book for purchase by a person whom I did not know. It was far beyond my means, and I was very uncomfortable with the kraton stamp, it was not something that I would have been brave enough to even think about taking out of Indonesia. However, I did arrange to photograph it and photocopy it.

The introductory page has the same text as the Damartaji publication, which Pak Ganja tells us is the same as the book of which he has a copy, however, the photo that Pak Ganja has supplied appears to be of a different book to the one that I have. Additionally, the Damartaji publication shows all the blades with hilts, the blades in the copy that I photographed does not show the blades with hilts.

I wonder if we are looking at two different books here?

The romanised text in the Damartaji edition can be freely translated as:-

"These keris drawings were made on the order of GKP Harya Hadiwijaya, son of ISKS Pakubuwana X of Surakarta Hadiningrat, by the adbi dalem Sunarya at the Kridawahana office. They were selected from the original book by RT Sastradiningrat, and with some additional forms added." Followed by the date.

When I asked Pak Ganja if he could supply a little additional information I was attempting to confirm if indeed we had two different books.

ganjawulung · 1st May 2010, 10:40 AM

Dear Alan, Erik,
I got the copy of this big-size book, on 1996. And the latest info I got, that the original copy of Pangeran Hadiwidjaja's book is now in Jakarta. Owned by a prominent keris person, who sometimes read this forum too... Once this book had been brought to London, to be laminated due to the fragile condition of the papers... (This news is not confirmed, though).

The image of blades in the book, of course without hilt. Not like the illustrations in the "Dhapur" book of Damartaji. And here is, images of "kraton stamp" in two pages of the book. (Image, not good enough, below)

This book contains, not only keris dhapurs, but also naming of pamors, with hand-illustrated sketches in full blades. (image below). Also without hilts....

GANJAWULUNG

1st May 2010, 12:17 AM	#1
Naga Sasra Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boca Raton, Florida, USA Posts: 108	Alan, While we wait for the for the complete page from Pak Ganja, attached find my copy of the GKP Harya Hadiwijaya book, front page, page with Kraton stamp and the following two pages. Attached Images

1st May 2010, 10:40 AM	#3
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Also Pamor Book Dear Alan, Erik, I got the copy of this big-size book, on 1996. And the latest info I got, that the original copy of Pangeran Hadiwidjaja's book is now in Jakarta. Owned by a prominent keris person, who sometimes read this forum too... Once this book had been brought to London, to be laminated due to the fragile condition of the papers... (This news is not confirmed, though). The image of blades in the book, of course without hilt. Not like the illustrations in the "Dhapur" book of Damartaji. And here is, images of "kraton stamp" in two pages of the book. (Image, not good enough, below) This book contains, not only keris dhapurs, but also naming of pamors, with hand-illustrated sketches in full blades. (image below). Also without hilts.... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images Last edited by ganjawulung; 1st May 2010 at 03:35 PM.

1st May 2010, 12:46 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,746	Thank you Erik. It appears that you have a copy of the same book of which I have a copy. In August 1988 I was offered this book for purchase by a person whom I did not know. It was far beyond my means, and I was very uncomfortable with the kraton stamp, it was not something that I would have been brave enough to even think about taking out of Indonesia. However, I did arrange to photograph it and photocopy it. The introductory page has the same text as the Damartaji publication, which Pak Ganja tells us is the same as the book of which he has a copy, however, the photo that Pak Ganja has supplied appears to be of a different book to the one that I have. Additionally, the Damartaji publication shows all the blades with hilts, the blades in the copy that I photographed does not show the blades with hilts. I wonder if we are looking at two different books here? The romanised text in the Damartaji edition can be freely translated as:- "These keris drawings were made on the order of GKP Harya Hadiwijaya, son of ISKS Pakubuwana X of Surakarta Hadiningrat, by the adbi dalem Sunarya at the Kridawahana office. They were selected from the original book by RT Sastradiningrat, and with some additional forms added." Followed by the date. When I asked Pak Ganja if he could supply a little additional information I was attempting to confirm if indeed we had two different books.