Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 22nd October 2021, 01:17 AM   #1
Hotspur
Member
 
Hotspur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Nipmuc USA
Posts: 481
Default This Cuttoe Seems A Little Fishy To Me

Currently inbound to me. I should be saving for that one last acquisition but it never seems to last the year. This short little guy should still be a keeper. The blade is only 15"/39.37 cm long. A whopping 22"/55.88 cm overall in length. I can't be sure if it is horn but seems to be. The fish guard and locket drew me in. I won't know how stable the scabbard is until I have it in hand. The blade appears to have been vigorously cleaned, what I refer to as scraped but not so the fittings. That puts me in a quandary as to whether to just go with my soft brushes, or go ahead and wipe it with cleaner/polish and then let it mellow.

I'm figuring late mid 18th century, based on the style and blade but the guard has me kind of perplexed, the hook that set my bid.

Thoughts? I bring this to the most serial serious here. Forgive me for the puns.

Cheers
GC
Attached Images
            
Hotspur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd October 2021, 10:45 AM   #2
Gonzoadler
Member
 
Gonzoadler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Germany
Posts: 239
Default

I think you caught a nice fish
I would say that it was made in the late 18th or early 19th century. The condition is not so bad, often the scabbards are missing.

Regards
Robin
Gonzoadler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th October 2021, 01:00 AM   #3
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,135
Default

I agree. Nothing fishy to me (except the motif ).
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th October 2021, 10:07 AM   #4
M ELEY
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NC, U.S.A.
Posts: 2,066
Default

A very nice hanger of the period. I like the 'ring' guard found on some of these, a throwback to earlier forms. Here's a brass hanger of mine with the same type of extended ring guard. Note also the 'nautical' theme on mine, like your 'fish'!
Attached Images
 
M ELEY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th October 2021, 07:30 PM   #5
Hotspur
Member
 
Hotspur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Nipmuc USA
Posts: 481
Default

Thanks guys. I am still waiting for its arrival.

I still can't place it to its time and origin. There is not much to the etch that I can see. The nautical theme is apparent but I am still stumped.

Cheers
GC
Hotspur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th October 2021, 10:06 PM   #6
Gonzoadler
Member
 
Gonzoadler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Germany
Posts: 239
Default

Such small hunting sabers, in German called Jagdplaute, are relatively common in Germany. So I would guess that your piece is German, too. Often they have a bird on the guard, a fish is far more rare.
The attached picture shows some similar pieces, dated to the mid 18th century. It is from this side:

http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.1457.html

So maybe I was wrong at first and your piece is a half century older than I thought.

Regards
Robin
Attached Images
 
Gonzoadler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th October 2021, 10:20 PM   #7
Hotspur
Member
 
Hotspur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Nipmuc USA
Posts: 481
Default

Thanks!
Hotspur is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.