Short sword, band or other type? Lions head with paw on guard

Will M · 2nd February 2015, 06:09 PM

I've never seen one like this only a similar blade. Has a 21 1/2" blade, brass pommel of a lions head and brass guard with a lions paw. The steel blade is relatively thin and somewhat flexible. Grip is leather covered wood.

Will M · 3rd February 2015, 08:37 AM

Described in Lyles 19890 Arms and Armour Review as a French circ 1830 unusual sidearm. 100gbp back then.

fernando · 3rd February 2015, 02:58 PM

It seems as it will no be easy to identify this example.
The blade is surely French; a classic type used in 1816 and 1830/1 models.
Look for inspector marks (poinçons) on the ricasso under the 'lion' paw shield.
By the way, have you cosidered that the paw in the guard may not be from a lion ... a griffon or other beast instead ?
Just guessing ...

Rick · 3rd February 2015, 03:13 PM

Will, could you please upload your pictures directly to this site .
This way if you remove the pictures or cancel your membership at Photobucket they will remain in the database here for the future edification of others .

A little info on the process .

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13631

Will M · 3rd February 2015, 03:21 PM

How do you directly upload photos, they are jpg's?

fernando · 3rd February 2015, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Will M

How do you directly upload photos, they are jpg's?

Yes basicaly, among others.
When you open the manage attachments option, it's all detailed there.

Will M · 3rd February 2015, 03:34 PM

Fernando I may have assumed without looking too carefully. The paw only has fur at the top across the edge. Unless the maker had never seen a lion this is not a lions paw.

2nd February 2015, 06:09 PM	#1
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 390	Short sword, band or other type? Lions head with paw on guard I've never seen one like this only a similar blade. Has a 21 1/2" blade, brass pommel of a lions head and brass guard with a lions paw. The steel blade is relatively thin and somewhat flexible. Grip is leather covered wood.

3rd February 2015, 03:13 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	Will, could you please upload your pictures directly to this site . This way if you remove the pictures or cancel your membership at Photobucket they will remain in the database here for the future edification of others . A little info on the process . http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13631 Last edited by Rick; 3rd February 2015 at 03:41 PM.

3rd February 2015, 08:37 AM	#2
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 390	Described in Lyles 19890 Arms and Armour Review as a French circ 1830 unusual sidearm. 100gbp back then.

3rd February 2015, 02:58 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	It seems as it will no be easy to identify this example. The blade is surely French; a classic type used in 1816 and 1830/1 models. Look for inspector marks (poinçons) on the ricasso under the 'lion' paw shield. By the way, have you cosidered that the paw in the guard may not be from a lion ... a griffon or other beast instead ? Just guessing ...

3rd February 2015, 03:21 PM	#5
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 390	How do you directly upload photos, they are jpg's?

3rd February 2015, 03:34 PM	#7
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 390	Fernando I may have assumed without looking too carefully. The paw only has fur at the top across the edge. Unless the maker had never seen a lion this is not a lions paw.