16th-17th century dagger to identify

Lansquenet59 · 3rd April 2020, 09:56 AM

Hello,

Can anyone identify this dagger? It is not mine, but a collector whom I met on another forum. With his permission, I put the photos here. Your comments are welcome. I think this model is Spanish.

ulfberth · 4th April 2020, 02:43 PM

Spanish second half of the 17 th C ( or could it be Portugese ? )
Its a left hand dagger to go with what the Spanish call " espada de conchas " as shown in the picture below.
Altough the crossguard does look a bit puny and its a bit out of proportion its still very appealing , I guess you have the acquire the taste for it. This dagger is in all parts Original no doubth whatsoever.
Please tell your friend I like the sabre in the picture in the brass scabbard its a French first empire sabre of the Imperial guards ( chasseur a cheval de la Garde Imperial )

fernando · 4th April 2020, 02:54 PM

Very nice left hander indeed, Thomas. Solingen on the blade ? ...

Lansquenet59 · 4th April 2020, 04:06 PM

Thank you for the answer.
No, it's not Soligen. False impression.
Probably the manufacturer, we should look for Spanish designers. If someone has an idea...

fernando · 5th April 2020, 10:46 AM

Thomas, i don't see any name with these letters groupings in Palomares Nomina.
... And, until better judgement, i would stick to IN SOLINGEN ... misspelled, overspelled, whatever

Lansquenet59 · 5th April 2020, 11:16 AM

If that's it, it's really very misspelled, which is not consistent.
An interesting question, could Germany have produced blades for Spain?

3rd April 2020, 09:56 AM	#1
Lansquenet59 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: France Posts: 132	16th-17th century dagger to identify Hello, Can anyone identify this dagger? It is not mine, but a collector whom I met on another forum. With his permission, I put the photos here. Your comments are welcome. I think this model is Spanish. Attached Images

4th April 2020, 02:43 PM	#2
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 382	Spanish second half of the 17 th C ( or could it be Portugese ? ) Its a left hand dagger to go with what the Spanish call " espada de conchas " as shown in the picture below. Altough the crossguard does look a bit puny and its a bit out of proportion its still very appealing , I guess you have the acquire the taste for it. This dagger is in all parts Original no doubth whatsoever. Please tell your friend I like the sabre in the picture in the brass scabbard its a French first empire sabre of the Imperial guards ( chasseur a cheval de la Garde Imperial ) Attached Images

4th April 2020, 02:54 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,639	Very nice left hander indeed, Thomas. Solingen on the blade ? ...

4th April 2020, 04:06 PM	#4
Lansquenet59 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: France Posts: 132	Thank you for the answer. No, it's not Soligen. False impression. Probably the manufacturer, we should look for Spanish designers. If someone has an idea...

5th April 2020, 10:46 AM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,639	Thomas, i don't see any name with these letters groupings in Palomares Nomina. ... And, until better judgement, i would stick to IN SOLINGEN ... misspelled, overspelled, whatever

5th April 2020, 11:16 AM	#6
Lansquenet59 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: France Posts: 132	If that's it, it's really very misspelled, which is not consistent. An interesting question, could Germany have produced blades for Spain?