A heavy French siege helmet Excavated in Bourgogne.

Cerjak · 1st May 2017, 12:09 PM

A heavy French siege helmet Excavated in Bourgogne.
Two pieces skull faceted in fourteen sections with a pivoted peak
This helmet is with additional plates mounted on the skull .
Siege helmet with such faceted skull are very rare.
Weight about 7 kg.
Any comment on it would be welcome.

cornelistromp · 2nd May 2017, 08:42 AM

weight of 7kg is not possible for a helmet , do you maybe mean 1.7kg ?

best,
Jasper

Cerjak · 2nd May 2017, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornelistromp

weight of 7kg is not possible for a helmet , do you maybe mean 1.7kg ?

best,
Jasper

Siege Helmet
Jasper,
There is no mistake in the weight ,some siege helmet are about 10 kg ( see this example
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/26527
Date:ca. 1600–1650
Culture:French
Medium:Steel
Dimensions:H. 11 7/8 in. (30.16 cm); W. 9 7/8 in. (25.08 cm); D. 11 1/2 in. (29.2 cm); Wt. 20 lb. 9 oz (9.34 kg)
Classification:Helmets
Credit Line:Gift of William H. Riggs, 1913
Accession Number:14.25.495
a second siege helmet from my collection
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=siege+helmet
Best

Jean-Luc

Cerjak · 2nd May 2017, 05:52 PM

That dent is the bullet impact Proving that the helmet would absorb fire from hand gun, the dent it made in the skull, showing that the bullet didn't penetrate.

cornelistromp · 2nd May 2017, 06:50 PM

I see, very heavy to wear though.

best,
Jasper

fernando · 2nd May 2017, 07:00 PM

Owners necks would have to be stronger than those of Formula 1 pilots, due to G force

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kronckew · 3rd May 2017, 09:14 AM

a lot of the weight would be distributed down to the rest of the armour and padding the helmet rested on and thus the shoulders took a lot of the burden. i think they and the rest of the armour were heavier as manning the walls didn't require the same mobility as on a battle field, and the extra thickness helped against missiles. if the enemy ever got over the walls and fighting became hand to hand, a lighter armour might be better. you could switch if you knew when they were going to make it over.

1st May 2017, 12:09 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	A heavy French siege helmet Excavated in Bourgogne. A heavy French siege helmet Excavated in Bourgogne. Two pieces skull faceted in fourteen sections with a pivoted peak This helmet is with additional plates mounted on the skull . Siege helmet with such faceted skull are very rare. Weight about 7 kg. Any comment on it would be welcome. Attached Images Last edited by Cerjak; 1st May 2017 at 04:23 PM.

2nd May 2017, 05:52 PM	#4
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,064	the bullet Proof That dent is the bullet impact Proving that the helmet would absorb fire from hand gun, the dent it made in the skull, showing that the bullet didn't penetrate. Attached Images

2nd May 2017, 08:42 AM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,057	weight of 7kg is not possible for a helmet , do you maybe mean 1.7kg ? best, Jasper

2nd May 2017, 06:50 PM	#5
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,057	I see, very heavy to wear though. best, Jasper

2nd May 2017, 07:00 PM	#6
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,641	Owners necks would have to be stronger than those of Formula 1 pilots, due to G force .

3rd May 2017, 09:14 AM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,150	a lot of the weight would be distributed down to the rest of the armour and padding the helmet rested on and thus the shoulders took a lot of the burden. i think they and the rest of the armour were heavier as manning the walls didn't require the same mobility as on a battle field, and the extra thickness helped against missiles. if the enemy ever got over the walls and fighting became hand to hand, a lighter armour might be better. you could switch if you knew when they were going to make it over.