Navajha seville made

napoleon · 4th August 2022, 12:05 PM

Here is a very nice Navajha , can anyone read the makers name, white metal mounts horn grip ,wrigglework all over,comments invited.

fernando · 4th August 2022, 03:48 PM

Hi napoleon,
Isn't it:

" No me habras sin razón ni me cierres sin honor "

Chris Evans · 4th August 2022, 03:51 PM

Napoleon,

What a beauty – I am envious!

In Forton’s book Navajas Antiguas - La Mejores Piezas de Coleccion, on page 82 there are three navajas that are very similar to yours and are attributed to Sevilla, towards the end of the 19th century.

As Fernando says, the inscription, though quite unclear to my eyes, appears to be the usual “No me saques sin razon – no me cierres sin honor” (Don’t take me out without reason and do not close without honour) and “ Sevilla”. Here we have to remember that a good many cutlers were illiterate and just wrote these inscriptions flying blind, so to speak. Actually, I think that Fernando read it much better than I and I would go with his.

I cannot discern a maker’s name or brand. However if you can see something, please take a good pic of it and post it.

Cheers
Chris

Rick · 4th August 2022, 03:55 PM

A lovely knife, but I agree with Fernando; it's a motto.
I think the maker's name, would normally be stamped at the base of the blade which, in this case, is covered by the decorative elements.

fernando · 4th August 2022, 04:02 PM

I don't think a makers name can be found. The city, yes !

4th August 2022, 12:05 PM	#1
napoleon Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 88	Navajha seville made Here is a very nice Navajha , can anyone read the makers name, white metal mounts horn grip ,wrigglework all over,comments invited. Attached Images

4th August 2022, 03:51 PM	#3
Chris Evans Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 661	Napoleon, What a beauty – I am envious! In Forton’s book Navajas Antiguas - La Mejores Piezas de Coleccion, on page 82 there are three navajas that are very similar to yours and are attributed to Sevilla, towards the end of the 19th century. As Fernando says, the inscription, though quite unclear to my eyes, appears to be the usual “No me saques sin razon – no me cierres sin honor” (Don’t take me out without reason and do not close without honour) and “ Sevilla”. Here we have to remember that a good many cutlers were illiterate and just wrote these inscriptions flying blind, so to speak. Actually, I think that Fernando read it much better than I and I would go with his. I cannot discern a maker’s name or brand. However if you can see something, please take a good pic of it and post it. Cheers Chris Last edited by Chris Evans; 4th August 2022 at 03:58 PM. Reason: Saw Fernando's post after I made mine.

4th August 2022, 03:48 PM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,641	Hi napoleon, Isn't it: " No me habras sin razón ni me cierres sin honor "

4th August 2022, 03:55 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	A lovely knife, but I agree with Fernando; it's a motto. I think the maker's name, would normally be stamped at the base of the blade which, in this case, is covered by the decorative elements.

4th August 2022, 04:02 PM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,641	I don't think a makers name can be found. The city, yes !