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Old 21st May 2019, 07:32 PM   #1
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Default Saudi (?)Jambiya-khanjar unusual blade ?

Hello everybody,

I bought this jambiya in an auction,
it seems of good quality ,
I found the shape of the blade really interesting - not usual for jambiyas
???

I will receive it these days...

The seller tell the hilt is made of ( cow) horn ( looks like ...)

I write Saudi jambiya because I think that the two crossed swords on the verso of the hilt are for Saudi Arabia, am I right ?

What do you think ?
Thank you
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Old 21st May 2019, 07:47 PM   #2
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It is from Oman. The rings tell the story and the crossed swords confirm it.
Check “ Oman coat of arms”.
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Old 21st May 2019, 08:01 PM   #3
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Look at this thread

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...hlight=alDojani

It's from KSA Saudi Arabia

but close to Oman
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Old 21st May 2019, 08:20 PM   #4
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Hello,
Thank you Ariel !!
Thank you Kubur !!

For the ''symbol'' on the hilt the two shamshirs swords have a palmtree on the top, this is why I thought about Saudi Arabia.

Thank a lot for the thread link,
The blade top of ''my'' jambiya seems a little larger and less curved,
I'll see when I'll receive it !
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Old 21st May 2019, 08:25 PM   #5
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It is from Oman. The rings tell the story and the crossed swords confirm it.
Check “ Oman coat of arms”.

The Coat of Arms on the subject Khanjar is SAUDI, not Omani. Links showing both attached.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_emblem_of_Oman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblem_of_Saudi_Arabia
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Old 21st May 2019, 08:27 PM   #6
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Hello,
Thank you Ariel !!
Thank you Kubur !!

For the ''symbol'' on the hilt the two shamshirs swords have a palmtree on the top, this is why I thought about Saudi Arabia.

Thank a lot for the thread link,
The blade top of ''my'' jambiya seems a little larger and less curved,
I'll see when I'll receive it !


Your dagger is 100% Saudi. Made in AlAhsa region, likely by alDajani family. Others made these daggers but this is their trademark craftsmanship. The blade is locally made, generally fitted on daggers made in the 60's and 70's. I do not find them on any others made later. I tested their quality, generally lesser.

Edit: on the chape you can find the maker's name. Put a close up and I can translate it to you.

The general confusion about this style of dagger and its attribution to Oman is generally based on bad attribution from a book or two. One from the top of my head is a book specialized in Omani silver. Omanis in this day make this dagger strictly for the Saudi market but their craftsmanship is not highly sought and finding examples is rare.
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Old 21st May 2019, 08:36 PM   #7
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Your dagger is 100% Saudi. Made in AlAhsa region, likely by alDajani family. Others made these daggers but this is their trademark craftsmanship. The blade is locally made, generally fitted on daggers made in the 60's and 70's. I do not find them on any others made later. I tested their quality, generally lesser.

Edit: on the chape you can find the maker's name. Put a close up and I can translate it to you.

The general confusion about this style of dagger and its attribution to Oman is generally based on bad attribution from a book or two. One from the top of my head is a book specialized in Omani silver. Omanis in this day make this dagger strictly for the Saudi market but their craftsmanship is not highly sought and finding examples is rare.


Thank you for all precious comments ! ( Stu too !)

I'll post a close picture when i'll get it !
cross fingers...
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Old 21st May 2019, 09:12 PM   #8
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Thank you for all precious comments ! ( Stu too !)

I'll post a close picture when i'll get it !
cross fingers...


Handle is rhino, btw :-)
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Old 26th May 2019, 10:58 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by francantolin
Hello everybody,

I bought this jambiya in an auction,
it seems of good quality ,
I found the shape of the blade really interesting - not usual for jambiyas
???

I will receive it these days...

The seller tell the hilt is made of ( cow) horn ( looks like ...)

I write Saudi jambiya because I think that the two crossed swords on the verso of the hilt are for Saudi Arabia, am I right ?

What do you think ?
Thank you



Thank you for posting. At this juncture I would point to a thread I raised a while ago in respect of this weapon ...please see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...&highlight=asir

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Old 29th May 2019, 10:41 AM   #10
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Hello,
Thank you Ibrahiim,

It took a long time to receive it and I passed three days without phone and internet connection, cable was broken...
( yes ,its still possible in 2019 !
maybe a good thing ?! ; ) )

I put some close up pictures

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Old 29th May 2019, 10:54 AM   #11
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Hello,
Thank you Ibrahiim,

It took a long time to receive it and I passed three days without phone and internet connection, cable was broken...
( yes ,its still possible in 2019 !
maybe a good thing ?! ; ) )

I put some close up pictures

Kind regards



well done. Good dagger. Hilt is definitely Rhino. As for the inscription. I recognize it even though it is hard to read. It is work of Abdullah AlDajani. The workshop is still around in AlHasa, and last time I checked, Abdullah alDajani is still around. While the workshop still takes commissions, there has been a shift to Southern dagger makers such as Ibn Shuwail. But in my eyes, nothing tops the older craftsmanship.
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Old 29th May 2019, 11:09 AM   #12
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A very large generally angry grey female ruminant with fore and aft nose horns made of fused hair that lives in a harem group of similar vegetarian animals called a 'Crash' usually with only one mature Bull is also referred to as a 'Cow', as are the females of another large grey vegetarian with side by side large teeth (and huge flappy ears) that were likely used to make the grip on my favourite yataghan.

All can be legitimately called Cow Horn. in addition to the more usual female Bovines which generally are not greyish. might also be Bull horn. I doubt that any of our items were made from Bull Horns like this one tho:
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Old 29th May 2019, 06:11 PM   #13
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Hello and thank you for you comment !
For the comment of kronckew I haven't undertstand everything
I follow the advice of local specialists about rhino horn,
why wouldn't I ?!

Kind regards - Saha Ftour Koum !

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well done. Good dagger. Hilt is definitely Rhino. As for the inscription. I recognize it even though it is hard to read. It is work of Abdullah AlDajani. The workshop is still around in AlHasa, and last time I checked, Abdullah alDajani is still around. While the workshop still takes commissions, there has been a shift to Southern dagger makers such as Ibn Shuwail. But in my eyes, nothing tops the older craftsmanship.
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