Interesting blade

pappa-karlo · 16th February 2013, 11:44 AM

Hello,
I have a child small sword with very informative blade. See pictures. Signatures:
Fur Maintz...Fur Trier...Fur Sachsen...Fur Pfaltz...Fur ?ustilia...Fur ???borg...Fur Braidenburg...Fur Bayern...Fur Colln...Ihro Kaiserlich Maust.
Are there any ideas on what it all mean?
Thank you in advance.

fernando · 16th February 2013, 01:33 PM

Maybe posting pictures in a way that we may see how the engraving of all those places was done. Would they have been engraved one after the other, as to illustrate where the owner has sequently been ... doing service, residing or in visit. Or could it be that the places were all engraved in the same moment, in the end of all that traveling. Easy to distinguish between both possibilities, observing the lettering aspect.
Or we are facing a completely different subject ?!
Hoping our fellow members come up with some enlightening

kisak · 24th February 2013, 03:33 AM

Those are the territories of the Prince-electors of the Holy Roman Empire. "Fur" simply means "for" I think, and "Kaiserlich" would probably refer to something of the Emperor's or imperial. Perhaps the last word is macht ("makes", according to google) rather than maust?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-elector

junker · 25th February 2013, 07:17 PM

Hi,
these are alle territories in former Germany:
archbishops land: Mainz and Trier, Cölln (Colongne)
and Territories: Sachsen, Pfaltz, Brandenburg, Bayern (Bavaria), Mecklenburg, ?
"Für" means for.
and the rest maybe "Ihro Kaiserlich. Majest." meaning "The royal majesty"

Maybe a Signature when the Germany Country was build out of the autonom Kingdoms in 1871 (Reichsgründung)

Dirk

M ELEY · 26th February 2013, 03:41 PM

Don't know about the markings, but pattern is circa 1750-ish, based on large pas 'd ane, flat/pierced outward-jutting guards, etc. Has it been silvered, chromed? Painted? The surface just looked a little too shiny for me?

Atlantia · 26th February 2013, 05:30 PM

Hi Karlo,

Nice sword.
Steel hilt? Nice silver wire binding.
Could you possibly post a picture of the hilt next to a ruler/measure so I can compare the dimensions with a childs smallsword of mine?

16th February 2013, 11:44 AM	#1
pappa-karlo Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15	Interesting blade Hello, I have a child small sword with very informative blade. See pictures. Signatures: Fur Maintz...Fur Trier...Fur Sachsen...Fur Pfaltz...Fur ?ustilia...Fur ???borg...Fur Braidenburg...Fur Bayern...Fur Colln...Ihro Kaiserlich Maust. Are there any ideas on what it all mean? Thank you in advance. Attached Images

26th February 2013, 03:41 PM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,066	Don't know about the markings, but pattern is circa 1750-ish, based on large pas 'd ane, flat/pierced outward-jutting guards, etc. Has it been silvered, chromed? Painted? The surface just looked a little too shiny for me? Last edited by M ELEY; 26th February 2013 at 10:32 PM.

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16th February 2013, 01:33 PM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,634	Maybe posting pictures in a way that we may see how the engraving of all those places was done. Would they have been engraved one after the other, as to illustrate where the owner has sequently been ... doing service, residing or in visit. Or could it be that the places were all engraved in the same moment, in the end of all that traveling. Easy to distinguish between both possibilities, observing the lettering aspect. Or we are facing a completely different subject ?! Hoping our fellow members come up with some enlightening

24th February 2013, 03:33 AM	#3
kisak Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 182	Those are the territories of the Prince-electors of the Holy Roman Empire. "Fur" simply means "for" I think, and "Kaiserlich" would probably refer to something of the Emperor's or imperial. Perhaps the last word is macht ("makes", according to google) rather than maust? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-elector

25th February 2013, 07:17 PM	#4
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	Hi, these are alle territories in former Germany: archbishops land: Mainz and Trier, Cölln (Colongne) and Territories: Sachsen, Pfaltz, Brandenburg, Bayern (Bavaria), Mecklenburg, ? "Für" means for. and the rest maybe "Ihro Kaiserlich. Majest." meaning "The royal majesty" Maybe a Signature when the Germany Country was build out of the autonom Kingdoms in 1871 (Reichsgründung) Dirk

26th February 2013, 05:30 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Karlo, Nice sword. Steel hilt? Nice silver wire binding. Could you possibly post a picture of the hilt next to a ruler/measure so I can compare the dimensions with a childs smallsword of mine?