Montenegro Shamshir on Ebay!

Valjhun · 2nd May 2008, 07:48 PM

Very interesting sword indeed. It is an ottoman shamshir with the Montenegro coat of arms on its scabbard. I've been outbid

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I've attached a couple of pictures for further reference.

ariel · 3rd May 2008, 12:04 AM

I saw it...
First, despite the eagle, there is no corroboration, either marking or inscription. Also, I have an uneasy feeling about the light area around the eagle. It was advertised as Russian. As you know, Russian oligarchs would pay extra for anything "imperial" ( post-revolutionary nostalgia, I guess). Adding a double-headed eagle to a Turkish shamshir would be a piece of cake and would bring extra money. I guess that's the origin of the double-headed eagle. And... it worked! More than $4k, as far as I remember.
Do not despair, old son!
And, BTW, you better start bragging about Tirri's Laz Bichagi

Valjhun · 3rd May 2008, 01:24 AM

Have you meant Tirri's Egyptian Knopesh?

I'm really looking forward to recive it.

What is happening to Tirri's Collection?

There are a lot of stuff on ebay lately...

SHAMSHIR:
According to the seller, there are hallmarks on the scabbard. I was too late for asking adittional photos. The coat of arms looks Montenegrin, rather than Russian. Central Lion instead of saint George. I also had that uneasy feeling about the light area around the eagle, but it could be a camera effect. Besides that it really looks stamped into de scabbard rather than soldered subsequently.

2nd May 2008, 07:48 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Montenegro Shamshir on Ebay! Very interesting sword indeed. It is an ottoman shamshir with the Montenegro coat of arms on its scabbard. I've been outbid ebay insertion: click I've attached a couple of pictures for further reference. Attached Images

3rd May 2008, 12:04 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I saw it... First, despite the eagle, there is no corroboration, either marking or inscription. Also, I have an uneasy feeling about the light area around the eagle. It was advertised as Russian. As you know, Russian oligarchs would pay extra for anything "imperial" ( post-revolutionary nostalgia, I guess). Adding a double-headed eagle to a Turkish shamshir would be a piece of cake and would bring extra money. I guess that's the origin of the double-headed eagle. And... it worked! More than $4k, as far as I remember. Do not despair, old son! And, BTW, you better start bragging about Tirri's Laz Bichagi

3rd May 2008, 01:24 AM	#3
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Have you meant Tirri's Egyptian Knopesh? I'm really looking forward to recive it. What is happening to Tirri's Collection? There are a lot of stuff on ebay lately... SHAMSHIR: According to the seller, there are hallmarks on the scabbard. I was too late for asking adittional photos. The coat of arms looks Montenegrin, rather than Russian. Central Lion instead of saint George. I also had that uneasy feeling about the light area around the eagle, but it could be a camera effect. Besides that it really looks stamped into de scabbard rather than soldered subsequently.