Originals or copies?

Andi · 27th October 2015, 08:26 PM

Said to be: Early guns and firearms in the collections of the Murol castle - Puy-de-Dôme, France. But the pieces seems to me like modern reproductions. What is your opinion?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._guns%29_2.jpg

fernando · 27th October 2015, 08:44 PM

Could be my eyes but, they look like toy reproductions to me

ulfberth · 27th October 2015, 09:00 PM

I agree with Fernando, the wood is new for sure and as far as I can see the barrels to

Marcus den toom · 27th October 2015, 09:26 PM

Without a doubt reproductions indeed, if you enlarge the wikipedia image you can see what looks like "percussion towers" on the left and middle gun. The right one has the same mistake and also a very strange matchholder.
The wood and iron are also, as Ulfberth stated, to modern looking.. other than that there are quit a number of weird things about these guns. Like that fragile stock on the tiller gun, as well as the rifges in the barrel.

The large cannon on the far right might also be a replica, but without further images it will be hard to say for sure.

Andi · 28th October 2015, 07:34 PM

Thank you for your comments supporting my doubts

Especially the barrels of the two left gonnes looks siimilar to a lathe turned model we got from a blacksmith from Belgium.

27th October 2015, 08:26 PM	#1
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 202	Originals or copies? Said to be: Early guns and firearms in the collections of the Murol castle - Puy-de-Dôme, France. But the pieces seems to me like modern reproductions. What is your opinion? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._guns%29_2.jpg Attached Images

27th October 2015, 08:44 PM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,641	Could be my eyes but, they look like toy reproductions to me

27th October 2015, 09:00 PM	#3
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 382	I agree with Fernando, the wood is new for sure and as far as I can see the barrels to

27th October 2015, 09:26 PM	#4
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 494	Without a doubt reproductions indeed, if you enlarge the wikipedia image you can see what looks like "percussion towers" on the left and middle gun. The right one has the same mistake and also a very strange matchholder. The wood and iron are also, as Ulfberth stated, to modern looking.. other than that there are quit a number of weird things about these guns. Like that fragile stock on the tiller gun, as well as the rifges in the barrel. The large cannon on the far right might also be a replica, but without further images it will be hard to say for sure.

28th October 2015, 07:34 PM	#5
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 202	Thank you for your comments supporting my doubts Especially the barrels of the two left gonnes looks siimilar to a lathe turned model we got from a blacksmith from Belgium.