Koummya? - Real or tourist fake?

M.G.M · 5th October 2009, 12:24 PM

Hi All

I a totally new to this fourm and a beginner of antique and ancient weapons. I normally collect roman coins but I find this an interessting field.

I recently bought this knife very cheap (So that is also an indicator) that I belive might be a tourist fake. I don't have it in hand yet but is there any way to tell. And if not is it poosible to tell what age and origin it might have?

All feedback is welcome

Thanks

/M.G.M

Rick · 5th October 2009, 02:17 PM

Hi MGM,
Welcome !

That looks like a high quality blade .
Souvenirs usually have cheap poorly made blades .
I'd say not tourist .

Battara · 5th October 2009, 03:47 PM

I agree with Rick, this is not a cheap tourist piece.

Sajen · 5th October 2009, 03:48 PM

Hello MGM,

it's not my field of collecting, but when I look to your moroccan dagger I would say that it is a well used item. The holes for the belt are on one side very worn and on the other side already repaired. And I agree with Rick that the blade is from good quality. Welcome to the forum.

sajen

CharlesS · 5th October 2009, 04:09 PM

Though it's seen better days, it's a nice example. The stamped blade means it may have been imported(the blade only that is). The deep lines in the hilt were oncle filled with silver, brass, or less likely gold, wire.

M.G.M · 5th October 2009, 06:09 PM

That was good and unexpected information since I paid about 25 euros for it. Very intressting with the "lines" and the mark. I guess it was brass since the other metal seems to be brass? Would it be possible to date it?

Thanks for all the answers.

Best Regards

/M.G.M

Rick · 5th October 2009, 07:44 PM

I think it has some age judging from its condition .

If not outright antique (100 yrs.) it is certainly vintage 'vintage' .

ward · 5th October 2009, 07:58 PM

Most of the daggers are 20th century. The problem with them is because there have been so many made in traditional methods for tourist that their worth is diminished. There are still piles of these for sale in present day morocco.

5th October 2009, 12:24 PM	#1
M.G.M Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2	Koummya? - Real or tourist fake? Hi All I a totally new to this fourm and a beginner of antique and ancient weapons. I normally collect roman coins but I find this an interessting field. I recently bought this knife very cheap (So that is also an indicator) that I belive might be a tourist fake. I don't have it in hand yet but is there any way to tell. And if not is it poosible to tell what age and origin it might have? All feedback is welcome Thanks /M.G.M Attached Images

5th October 2009, 02:17 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	Hi MGM, Welcome ! That looks like a high quality blade . Souvenirs usually have cheap poorly made blades . I'd say not tourist .

5th October 2009, 03:47 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I agree with Rick, this is not a cheap tourist piece.

5th October 2009, 03:48 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,506	Hello MGM, it's not my field of collecting, but when I look to your moroccan dagger I would say that it is a well used item. The holes for the belt are on one side very worn and on the other side already repaired. And I agree with Rick that the blade is from good quality. Welcome to the forum. sajen

5th October 2009, 04:09 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Though it's seen better days, it's a nice example. The stamped blade means it may have been imported(the blade only that is). The deep lines in the hilt were oncle filled with silver, brass, or less likely gold, wire.

5th October 2009, 06:09 PM	#6
M.G.M Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2	That was good and unexpected information since I paid about 25 euros for it. Very intressting with the "lines" and the mark. I guess it was brass since the other metal seems to be brass? Would it be possible to date it? Thanks for all the answers. Best Regards /M.G.M

5th October 2009, 07:44 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	I think it has some age judging from its condition . If not outright antique (100 yrs.) it is certainly vintage 'vintage' .

5th October 2009, 07:58 PM	#8
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Most of the daggers are 20th century. The problem with them is because there have been so many made in traditional methods for tourist that their worth is diminished. There are still piles of these for sale in present day morocco.