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Old 24th November 2018, 03:49 PM   #1
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According to some specialist, this is an example made in Braunschweig, around 1570-1590.
Similar to those from Nuremberg and Dresden, however with details, or lack of them, that make it be correctly identified.
(If any of you guys is interested, i can transcribe/translate all those differentiation details).
Residual traces of gold may be discerned in the engraving.
Such a pity that it came without the safety catch spring, which took me quite a while to look for a local arrangement.


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Old 24th November 2018, 04:18 PM   #2
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I cannot believe that this is a Brunswick lock, much more I take this for a lock of Augsburg or Dresden of the years between 1580 and 1590. The fotos show Brunswick wheellocks and their typical details.
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Corrado, you are showing Brunswick luxury versions, but the info i had is that this is a version for middle class clientele (petty bourgeoisie) or for the export market.
The same source says that, if this were a Dresden lock, the pan cover would move around the wheel case and not frontwards.
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A new attempt for a trigger safety catch spring; a piece of pyrite in the dog; and a wheel spanner from the period.


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Old 9th December 2018, 09:29 PM   #5
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Hi Nando,

Your source is mostlikely right, the engraving though still attractive ( ) is indeed of lower quality than the top end locks of that era. The higher end versions would be andorned with engraving similar to the Saxony patrons shown here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8540

See also:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...xony+wheellock
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...xony+wheellock


The spring is far better than the first one, no idea what the maker was thinking Still, and please correct me if my eyes deceive me, but the spring attachements inside the lock plate should have been at the beginning of the spring rather than near the bend.

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Old 9th December 2018, 09:36 PM   #6
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...Still, and please correct me if my eyes deceive me, but the spring attachments inside the lock plate should have been at the beginning of the spring rather than near the bend.
I am afraid i don't get it Marcus; can you explain by other words ... or make a sketch of what you are saying ?
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Old 9th December 2018, 10:05 PM   #7
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You know Marcus, there were limitations due to the spring i got from an old lock having to be adapted in a manner to adjust its opening to the due tension to hold the safety lever. If the notch was made more to the front the opening would be too wide .


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