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22nd September 2020, 12:41 PM
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Looks to be a small, well worn, keris Madura. The wooden hilt is quite simple by Madurese standards. The wrangka is more impressive.
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22nd September 2020, 01:13 PM
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AFAIK this style of hilt is called sandang walikat. A nice and old specimen of Madurese kris.
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22nd September 2020, 04:44 PM
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Is sandang walikat derived from kocet kocetan? The first two pictures particularly brought that to mind. These North Carolina swap meets tend to be quite the happening place. |
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22nd September 2020, 06:01 PM
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No, sandang walikat designates a style of triangular kris scabbard from Java or Madura, see attached specimen, and also apparently a style of Madurese hilt, see pic. Regards |
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22nd September 2020, 07:39 PM
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By the way, the pendok seems to be missing and the black horn inserts on the gandar are probaly more recent than the waranga itself.
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27th September 2020, 04:54 PM
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Are the hilts called sandang walikat because the hilt profile is triangular like the scabbard? Would Sanjen's post #43 of this thread, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...ighlight=repair, contain sandang walikat hilts as well, even though these hilts are planar and not carved? |
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28th September 2020, 03:39 AM
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Charles, i find this Madura keris of yours quite enchanting. Thanks for showing.
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28th September 2020, 03:48 AM
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IP, I would suggest that these hilts are called sandang walikat hilts because they are the correct hilt to wear with a sandang walikat wrongko.
sandang = clothing walikat = shoulder blade (scapula) |
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28th September 2020, 12:02 PM
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Amazed that the sheath looks identical to mine. Never saw one before with horn tip end and decorative collar.
Last edited by Paul B. : 28th September 2020 at 02:29 PM. |
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28th September 2020, 12:39 PM
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Beautiful sheath! @@ |
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28th September 2020, 03:34 PM
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Well, they do have similar decorative collars and a black horn toe on the gandar, yes, but these two sheaths are hardly identical. In fact, similarities aside, they are two completely different sheath forms.  |
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1st October 2020, 10:07 AM
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Another Madurese scabbard in sandang walikat style with horn inserts, these are not that rare IMO.
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2nd October 2020, 04:21 PM
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Could these horn pieces be repairs? Both the buntut and the joint the wranka are areas that are frequently stressed.
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2nd October 2020, 07:39 PM
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IMO these horn pieces could be either stylistic additions, or repairs, or for increasing the scabbard length and matching the blade length. |
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