Info asked for a malay blade.

danny1976 · 24th February 2011, 10:56 PM

Hi Members ,

Today i pickud up some stuf and there was also a malay keris blade with a old jawa demam hilt.
The only thing i know about this blade is that is in Holland since 1951.

Any info regarding the dapur name and region is welcome.

Regards,

Danny

BluErf · 25th February 2011, 02:01 PM

Without the sheath, it's hard to tell for sure. But the blade is more like the Bugis-influenced blades found in the Straits of Malacca. So that would put it more Southern Malay/Bugis than Northern Malay. As I mentioned "Straits", it could be from either side of the Straits - Malaya or Sumatra.

danny1976 · 25th February 2011, 04:38 PM

Slmt Bleu,

Thank you for answering !
So if i read it good , it,s not sure if it is a malay blade ?
This is a kind of good news for me , because it wil mean i can put this blade in a sumatran scabbard ?
this will be easyer for me , a sumatra waranka i can find in holland but a malay scabbard wil be more difficult .

Are the members that have this kind of blade , i would like to see the fittings and the wranka .

Greetz,

Danny

BluErf · 26th February 2011, 11:02 AM

Given that Malaya was formerly controlled by the British, and present-day Indonesia formerly controlled by the Dutch, I think it may also be reasonable that there are more Sumatran and (other Indonesian) kerises in Holland than Malayan kerises.

Yes, this keris would not look odd in a Sumatran keris sheath. The only question is what is the appropriate style, given that there are many many different Sumatran sheath styles.

I have seen similar blades in Minang style sheaths (I'm not suggesting you to do that), but I think it will not look odd if it had the sheath of the sepokal keris I posted a few days ago.

Happy hunting for the sheath!

24th February 2011, 10:56 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 232	Info asked for a malay blade. Hi Members , Today i pickud up some stuf and there was also a malay keris blade with a old jawa demam hilt. The only thing i know about this blade is that is in Holland since 1951. Any info regarding the dapur name and region is welcome. Regards, Danny Attached Images

25th February 2011, 02:01 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Without the sheath, it's hard to tell for sure. But the blade is more like the Bugis-influenced blades found in the Straits of Malacca. So that would put it more Southern Malay/Bugis than Northern Malay. As I mentioned "Straits", it could be from either side of the Straits - Malaya or Sumatra.

25th February 2011, 04:38 PM	#3
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 232	Slmt Bleu, Thank you for answering ! So if i read it good , it,s not sure if it is a malay blade ? This is a kind of good news for me , because it wil mean i can put this blade in a sumatran scabbard ? this will be easyer for me , a sumatra waranka i can find in holland but a malay scabbard wil be more difficult . Are the members that have this kind of blade , i would like to see the fittings and the wranka . Greetz, Danny

26th February 2011, 11:02 AM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Given that Malaya was formerly controlled by the British, and present-day Indonesia formerly controlled by the Dutch, I think it may also be reasonable that there are more Sumatran and (other Indonesian) kerises in Holland than Malayan kerises. Yes, this keris would not look odd in a Sumatran keris sheath. The only question is what is the appropriate style, given that there are many many different Sumatran sheath styles. I have seen similar blades in Minang style sheaths (I'm not suggesting you to do that), but I think it will not look odd if it had the sheath of the sepokal keris I posted a few days ago. Happy hunting for the sheath!