A Match Made In Keris Swap

Rick · 18th February 2010, 05:15 PM

Have at it Gentlemen .
All comments and criticism gladly accepted .

Sepuhan line in the first luk .
Gonjo Iras .

danny1976 · 18th February 2010, 06:11 PM

Hi Rick,

Seems like a nice wedding to me , nice keris.

What do u mean with Sepuhan line ?

Gr,

Danny

David · 18th February 2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by danny1976

What do u mean with Sepuhan line ?

Hi Danny. I believe that would be the temper line.

Alam Shah · 18th February 2010, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Have at it Gentlemen .
All comments and criticism gladly accepted .

Sepuhan line in the first luk .
Gonjo Iras .

Nice ensemble.. I did wonder when it will be coming out in warung kopi..

tada!
Does the base of the hilt sits nicely in the hilt cup? seems a bit tight..

Rick · 18th February 2010, 11:43 PM

I was waiting for a bit of sun Shahrial; it's a rare occurence this time of year where I live .

It's a pretty good fit .

The bottom of the hilt touches the bottom of the Pendongkok cup.

Most of the way around the base the gap is less than a sixteenth of an inch between cup and hilt; except where the base of the hilt goes out of round; then the gap widens a bit more.

The thing that pleases me most is that the Keris Swap is working out !!

Battara · 19th February 2010, 04:06 AM

A really nice piece Rick. Congrats!

Alam Shah · 19th February 2010, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

It's a pretty good fit .

The bottom of the hilt touches the bottom of the Pendongkok cup.

The thing that pleases me most is that the Keris Swap is working out !!

Congratulations is in order..

Lovely hilt, ok pendokok.. v. nice blade and sheath..

Rick · 19th February 2010, 02:26 PM

Agree Shahrial; thanks .

The pendongkok is a pretty thick casting .

The blade is pre-war; it is quite sturdy yet very topographical .

Anyone think this might be a peninsular keris ?

Sajen · 19th February 2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Agree Shahrial; thanks .

The pendongkok is a pretty thick casting .

The blade is pre-war; it is quite sturdy yet very topographical .

Anyone think this might be a peninsular keris ?

Hi Rick,

I still remember that you have shown the hilt in a thread I started, now it is complete.
When I look at my last thread it is good possible that the keris is from Riau or Peninsular, the sampir is similar. But Alam, Kai Wee or Rasdan will be able to say more about this.

Detlef

Rick · 19th February 2010, 11:59 PM

I hope they'll clue me in also .

BluErf · 24th February 2010, 02:02 PM

Yep, looks peninsula to me.

The hilt and pendoko looks Sulawesi.

But came together nicely.

DAHenkel · 13th March 2010, 02:47 AM

Slightly tricky one Rick but it is probably not Peninsular or at least not from the Northeast Peninsula. These I like to categorize as "Straits Bugis" or just "Straits" keris because by the beginning of the 19th century there was already very little distinction between the Malay and Bugis peoples in the region. It could have come from anywhere up to Northeastern Sumatra, down through Riau or as far south as Palembang. The blade looks like many South Sumatran blades I've seen dressed in Palembang dress. These blades are so common I suspect they could have been trade blades. Probably produced in South Sumatra for the Malay/Bugis market circa 19th c. The sheath looks like Riau or Eastern Sumatra. They're very similar to Terengganu in form but there is little to distinguish them and they tend to run together. As a general rule the wood selection is slightly different with the Terengganu preference for wood with more figuring and dark color bands. The Riau/Sumatran types tend to be less boxy and fuller (perhaps buxom is the word

?) but again somewhere in between they overlap. I assume the hilt is not original to the piece but it is appropriate, more or less. Pendokok is Bugis but is not a perfect fit. Still, again it will serve. Nice piece...

Rick · 13th March 2010, 03:02 AM

Thanks for your comments Dave; and it is great to see you posting again !
Yes, the hilt was acquired in the US from a non-collector .

This would generally be considered an acceptable combination then ?

Thanks,
Rick

18th February 2010, 05:15 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	A Match Made In Keris Swap Have at it Gentlemen . All comments and criticism gladly accepted . Sepuhan line in the first luk . Gonjo Iras . Attached Images

18th February 2010, 11:43 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	I was waiting for a bit of sun Shahrial; it's a rare occurence this time of year where I live . It's a pretty good fit . The bottom of the hilt touches the bottom of the Pendongkok cup. Most of the way around the base the gap is less than a sixteenth of an inch between cup and hilt; except where the base of the hilt goes out of round; then the gap widens a bit more. The thing that pleases me most is that the Keris Swap is working out !! Last edited by Rick; 19th February 2010 at 02:41 AM.

19th February 2010, 02:26 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Agree Shahrial; thanks . The pendongkok is a pretty thick casting . The blade is pre-war; it is quite sturdy yet very topographical . Anyone think this might be a peninsular keris ? Last edited by Rick; 19th February 2010 at 06:02 PM.

18th February 2010, 06:11 PM	#2
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 232	Hi Rick, Seems like a nice wedding to me , nice keris. What do u mean with Sepuhan line ? Gr, Danny

19th February 2010, 04:06 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	A really nice piece Rick. Congrats!

19th February 2010, 11:59 PM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	I hope they'll clue me in also .

24th February 2010, 02:02 PM	#11
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Yep, looks peninsula to me. The hilt and pendoko looks Sulawesi. But came together nicely.

13th March 2010, 02:47 AM	#12
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	Slightly tricky one Rick but it is probably not Peninsular or at least not from the Northeast Peninsula. These I like to categorize as "Straits Bugis" or just "Straits" keris because by the beginning of the 19th century there was already very little distinction between the Malay and Bugis peoples in the region. It could have come from anywhere up to Northeastern Sumatra, down through Riau or as far south as Palembang. The blade looks like many South Sumatran blades I've seen dressed in Palembang dress. These blades are so common I suspect they could have been trade blades. Probably produced in South Sumatra for the Malay/Bugis market circa 19th c. The sheath looks like Riau or Eastern Sumatra. They're very similar to Terengganu in form but there is little to distinguish them and they tend to run together. As a general rule the wood selection is slightly different with the Terengganu preference for wood with more figuring and dark color bands. The Riau/Sumatran types tend to be less boxy and fuller (perhaps buxom is the word ?) but again somewhere in between they overlap. I assume the hilt is not original to the piece but it is appropriate, more or less. Pendokok is Bugis but is not a perfect fit. Still, again it will serve. Nice piece...

13th March 2010, 03:02 AM	#13
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Thanks for your comments Dave; and it is great to see you posting again ! Yes, the hilt was acquired in the US from a non-collector . This would generally be considered an acceptable combination then ? Thanks, Rick