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3rd July 2010, 05:47 PM
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Algerian Pala need translation
Hi ,
Here are 2 of my Algerian Palas can someone translate this? Suspect says! Amel Mousa Qarim? Regards Kutrt |
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5th July 2010, 08:48 PM
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Yes, the inscription is Amel Musa Karimi. best, |
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6th July 2010, 09:37 AM
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Hi Zifir , Thanks for your help. Regards Kurt |
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8th July 2010, 10:35 PM
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Hi Kurt, fantastic swords, how do you know that these palas are Algerian?
In the book "splendeur des armes orientales" there is a almost identical one, but it is just described as "ottoman". |
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9th July 2010, 08:40 AM
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Algerian
Hi Eftihis ,
You're right, one of my palas was in the exhibition , "splendeur des armes orientales" Ottoman is correct because Algeria was part of the Ottoman Empire. But only in Algeria Palas were worn without cross pice. Kurt |
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9th July 2010, 08:47 AM
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Well. congratulations!
Could we have some close ups of the silverwork on the scabbards? |
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10th July 2010, 01:17 PM
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clos ups
Here are the close-ups.
Regards Kurt |
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23rd July 2010, 08:00 PM
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here is mine: same pattern, not as lavish :-(
But it has unmistakeable Afghani/North Indian features. Any thoughts? |
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27th July 2010, 10:47 AM
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Thanks for sharing pictures. I saw one like that in London. I am sure it is a Afgahn saber. Handle and ferrule are typical of Afghanistan. Is it a very heavy blade? Regards Kurt |
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27th July 2010, 11:44 PM
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Kurt,
Thanks for the info and opinion. My blade is pretty thick and massive, but not heavy: it is too short for that:-) Your gorgeous palas were presumably naval: too short for the cavalry. But.. Afghan Navy???? Moreover, if you saw another one like that, we are beginning to think about a specific pattern. What kind of purpose could such Palas serve in Afghanistan? |
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28th July 2010, 08:45 AM
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Afghan pala
Ariel ,
You're absolutely right my palace are from the Navy. Your probably was carried by a particular tribe. Perhaps very little people? , Check out this link to be from the Top Kapi istanbul. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Imperial_Armoury_Topkapi_Istanbul_(19).JPG Kurt |
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28th July 2010, 09:23 AM
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Top Kapi Istanbul
Ariel ,
is similar to your Pala. Kurt |
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