french musket lock

terry1956 · 11th November 2011, 11:57 AM

hi. Can anyone please let me know what this lock is off, age etc. thanks, michael

fernando · 11th November 2011, 12:12 PM

French, for a musket or pistol like model AN IX (1777).
See HERE and HERE

rickystl · 11th November 2011, 04:28 PM

Agree with Fernando. Lock is in nice condition. Good find. Rick.

Fernando K · 11th November 2011, 05:51 PM

Hola a todos:

Para mí, se trata de una falsificación: La palabra "Royale" indica que está construida después de la época napoleonica, con la restauración de la monarquía y no corresponde a los modelos "reales", construídos en 1816 y despúes, que tenían la cazoleta (pan, bassinet) con guarda-fuego, si bien, igualmente, de bronce

Hello all,

For me, this is a fake: The word "Royale" indicates that it is built after the Napoleonic era, with the restoration of the monarchy and does not correspond to the models 'real', built in 1816 and later, they had the bowl (bread, bassinet) with guard-fire, but, equally, bronze

Sincerely from Argentina. Fernando K
Afectuosamente desde Argentina. Fernando K

fernando · 11th November 2011, 06:51 PM

Alright Fernando, you got a point; model 1816.
But why a fake ?
The lock plate of pistol model 1816 de la Garde Du Corps du Roy also had a pan with "guarda fuego"

http://pistol3d.com/silex_garde_corp...orps_2_gn.html

http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/pist%...oi%201816.html

terry1956 · 11th November 2011, 07:40 PM

hi, thanks for the feedback. here is some more information on this musket.
I have also found on the flintlock plate the following what looks like a stamped G with a very small stampd fleur de lis above this.on the frizzen plate are the letters VX. on the barrel near the touch hole is stamped the letters MR also on top surface of barrel are stamped H and in an oval stamp the letter G with a small star above. there are also 3 letters i can,t make out.on the trigger guard again in oval stamp is the G letter with the star above. the stock as the letter V stamp and on the plug a number 1 in the middle and what looks likeversailles around that. along the barrel are in gold the words compagnie des cent suisses du roi
ok chaps what do make of this, I can,t find any information on this at all, bar knowing that the cent swiss was part of the french royal guard.
michael

11th November 2011, 11:57 AM	#1
terry1956 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yeovil, somerset, uk Posts: 75	french musket lock hi. Can anyone please let me know what this lock is off, age etc. thanks, michael Attached Images

11th November 2011, 07:40 PM	#6
terry1956 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: yeovil, somerset, uk Posts: 75	more information on musket hi, thanks for the feedback. here is some more information on this musket. I have also found on the flintlock plate the following what looks like a stamped G with a very small stampd fleur de lis above this.on the frizzen plate are the letters VX. on the barrel near the touch hole is stamped the letters MR also on top surface of barrel are stamped H and in an oval stamp the letter G with a small star above. there are also 3 letters i can,t make out.on the trigger guard again in oval stamp is the G letter with the star above. the stock as the letter V stamp and on the plug a number 1 in the middle and what looks likeversailles around that. along the barrel are in gold the words compagnie des cent suisses du roi ok chaps what do make of this, I can,t find any information on this at all, bar knowing that the cent swiss was part of the french royal guard. michael Attached Images

11th November 2011, 12:12 PM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	French, for a musket or pistol like model AN IX (1777). See HERE and HERE

11th November 2011, 04:28 PM	#3
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Agree with Fernando. Lock is in nice condition. Good find. Rick.

11th November 2011, 05:51 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 663	Hola a todos: Para mí, se trata de una falsificación: La palabra "Royale" indica que está construida después de la época napoleonica, con la restauración de la monarquía y no corresponde a los modelos "reales", construídos en 1816 y despúes, que tenían la cazoleta (pan, bassinet) con guarda-fuego, si bien, igualmente, de bronce Hello all, For me, this is a fake: The word "Royale" indicates that it is built after the Napoleonic era, with the restoration of the monarchy and does not correspond to the models 'real', built in 1816 and later, they had the bowl (bread, bassinet) with guard-fire, but, equally, bronze Sincerely from Argentina. Fernando K Afectuosamente desde Argentina. Fernando K

11th November 2011, 06:51 PM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Alright Fernando, you got a point; model 1816. But why a fake ? The lock plate of pistol model 1816 de la Garde Du Corps du Roy also had a pan with "guarda fuego" http://pistol3d.com/silex_garde_corp...orps_2_gn.html http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/pist%...oi%201816.html