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Old 15th August 2017, 04:26 AM   #271
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Georgian warriors, the illustration is from "Savage Svânetia "volume 2, by Clive Phillips-Wolley, 1883.
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Old 15th August 2017, 08:13 AM   #272
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Georgian warriors, the illustration is from "Savage Svânetia "volume 2, by Clive Phillips-Wolley, 1883.
mr lesghia looks a bit under armed, needs a few more assorted weapons about his person. (looks a bit like it was posed & he was loaded down to illustrate the range of arms available. and they add more in the middle pic! he can't be comfortable. how the heck can he draw that sword....)
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Old 16th October 2017, 08:51 AM   #273
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Afghan with choora dagger.
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Old 20th October 2017, 03:09 AM   #274
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Circassians wearing armor.
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Old 23rd October 2017, 01:24 PM   #275
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What a fascinating thread, thanks to all who have shared their photos.
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Old 15th December 2017, 04:30 PM   #276
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Shown as "Moros", this old postcard seems to include some Bagobos as well.
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Old 15th December 2017, 08:40 PM   #277
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....he can't be comfortable. how the heck can he draw that sword....)
This is a very interesting sword. We do not know its original name, but are just using "Kabiani Khmali": sword with a skirt ( see the scabbard), supposedly indigenous to Svanetia and Imeretia. This is the earliest known example of a guard-less Caucasian sword, likely one of a predecessors of shashka. Its handle was strongly angled toward the edge, just a tad short of a pistol grip. One possibility of such a construction is its potential use as both a stabbing and a slashing weapon. Also see the famous sword of Charles the Great.

One can read a paper by Bakradze and Kiziria here:

http://historical-weapons.com/wp-con...ze-Kiziria.pdf

The kindjal of the other warrior is also interesting: its pommel is square, reminiscing classical Gurian examples.
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Old 4th January 2018, 07:47 PM   #278
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Default Photo from Maharaja Ram Singh 2

One of the photos made by His Royal Highness Maharaja Ram Singh in his court in Jaipur in 1860
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Old 9th February 2018, 06:10 PM   #279
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Hi all... Here I attached 5 images, first three showing Circassian soldiers at İstanbul. The arms and clothing of the Circassians were well known in the Ottoman Empire. Çerkes Kaması (Circassian Qama) and Çerkes Kılıcı (Circassian Saber) were famous enough to have part in the folk tales or ballads.
The last two are interesting: We see Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, founder of modern Turkey, during Turco-Italian War, or Tripolitanian War, in 1911-12, wearing a shashka. The very last one is from 1922, showing the high command of the Turkish forces just before the end of the Greek-Turkish War. An officer, possibly from Circassian origin, wearing a kindjal and shashka.

Seems that shashka was already known and famous in the eastern world, before it re-gained its fame as "Cossack shashka"
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Old 12th February 2018, 02:29 AM   #280
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Two kids practicing pencak silat. The page I found this from was from my reading about Silat Cikalong from Jawa Barat, but I'm unsure if it's related to the Cikalong style.

I have noticed another discussion on this forum about the usage of keris in Indonesian martial arts and whether there were any styles that had techniques for keris weilding. This could be one example. In my personal exposure with silat / maenpo Cikalong I did not learn or observe any keris techniques, but have seen golok techniques with emphases on slashing and parrying.
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Old 30th March 2018, 06:04 PM   #281
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Here are some handcolored miniature (6x9cm) photos by Wilhelm Hammeschmidt, ca 1865, that came with a larger collection of photos that I bought. Originally they where CDV cards but has been trimmed and mounted several on a bigger piece of cardboard. Not to detailed, but maybe you have not seen them before.
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Old 2nd June 2018, 07:55 PM   #282
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Picked up this old photo recently, (Bagobo, Mindanao ?). Maybe studio posed, but shows the shield and spear well. 1920s ?
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Old 23rd November 2018, 04:55 PM   #283
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The fighting ascetics. Rajasthan, 1900.
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Old 26th November 2018, 04:23 PM   #284
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In July 1939 the Portuguese president visited the Limpopo valley, in the (then) colony of Mozambique.
40 000 natives (Rongas/Vatuas) attented the cerimony and 30 000 of them simulated war dances (Batuque), assaults (Impi) and fights.


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Old 15th February 2019, 09:04 PM   #285
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Gaddang people. Northern Luzon, Philippines.
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Old 17th February 2019, 11:26 PM   #286
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Default Madaba Bedu

Few pictures from Roman Catholic Church in Madaba, Jordan.
First decade of 20th century when Madaba was reestablished.
Note Martini-Henry and some Shibriyas - specially this with studded handle surprised me. As well as the typical Bedu outfit in tribe which is said to be catholic.
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Old 18th February 2019, 07:29 AM   #287
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Default A few pictures of Abyssinian warriors (nobles) in parade dress

Single portraits: The youngest one is young Ras Tafari Mekonnen (emperor Haile Selassie I), the sitting injured is Ras Besabe (son of king of Gojam),the old man standing in the field with spear is Ras Nasibu, the well looking sitting guy is Dejazmach Gebre Michael
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Old 18th February 2019, 07:39 AM   #288
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Default Ras Nassibu (picture dropped out from previous post)

Ras Nassibu (picture dropped out from previous post)
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Old 19th February 2019, 04:25 PM   #289
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Bushmen warriors of the Zulu tribe, with Brits and Afrikaners in a second plan (1879).

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Old 19th February 2019, 04:26 PM   #290
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Mozambique warriors (1895).

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Old 3rd April 2019, 02:00 PM   #291
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Default Two warriors/hunters from the southern part of Ethiopia

The shield used to be attributed to Oromo people (which is a little bit rough allocation - there were many Oromo clans using different shields)
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Old 28th April 2019, 05:48 PM   #292
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Default Shields from Sidamo, Ethiopia

The picture with a group of people is from Bära village in Sidama, 1954-1955

Both pictures are from the book by Pascal Joannes "Private Collection of Ethiopian Art - Tribute to Tekalegn Besega"

(Teka was one of Ethiopian collectors, he, unfortunately, died a few years ago)
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Old 8th August 2019, 08:36 PM   #293
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Tribal warriors. Vietnam, 1950-60.
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Old 31st March 2020, 08:54 AM   #294
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Old 31st March 2020, 03:51 PM   #295
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This thread has been around for some time, but i had not realized that i have apparently fallen down on my responsibility to make sure it had a fair representation of the peoples of keris cultures. My bad! I will now attempt to redeem myself. LOL!
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Jawa, Sumbawa, Celebes, Minangkabau....
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Jawa, Lombok, Bali. Sumbawa, etc.
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