Strange Indo persian dagger info needed.

mjamerks · 1st April 2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

It is Ottoman. I think the handle could be a later retrofit for crossguard or bolster, and the blade is yet another later addition. Is the ridge on one side only?

The blade has 4 ridges and as far as I can see the grip and blade are very tight and looks like they Original to each other

ALEX · 1st April 2014, 03:31 PM

both handle and blade are of substantial age, so could be original or of same period. The handle had some sort of attachment in the past, so this made me think it was lost and blade added later.. just a guess. I've seen at least one Ottoman blade with 4 ridges, and it was quite old, around 17 century, so they are known. I think others may have more suggestions. Its an interesting dagger

mjamerks · 1st April 2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

both handle and blade are of substantial age, so could be original or of same period. The handle had some sort of attachment in the past, so this made me think it was lost and blade added later.. just a guess. I've seen at least one Ottoman blade with 4 ridges, and it was quite old, around 17 century, so they are known. I think others may have more suggestions. Its an interesting dagger

Hi Alex
Thanks for the info.
I would like to get the guard restored but have no idear what it has looked like,a ring or a crossguard?

ALEX · 1st April 2014, 04:44 PM

I'd advise not to add anything, and leave it as is. There's not much to base the restoration on and it's better not to disturb it's character and to leave it untouched).

CharlesS · 1st April 2014, 05:00 PM

I'm think it's a cut down and curved bayonet blade added to an Ottoman hilt and is clearly missing its original bolster....which may also have hidden the mystery of whether the two were meant to be together or not.

mjamerks · 1st April 2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

I'm think it's a cut down and curved bayonet blade added to an Ottoman hilt and is clearly missing its original bolster....which may also have hidden the mystery of whether the two were meant to be together or not.

The blade has on the base on all 4 sides remains of gold inlay,so I dont believe its an old bayonet blade.see extra pics

1st April 2014, 03:31 PM	#2
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	both handle and blade are of substantial age, so could be original or of same period. The handle had some sort of attachment in the past, so this made me think it was lost and blade added later.. just a guess. I've seen at least one Ottoman blade with 4 ridges, and it was quite old, around 17 century, so they are known. I think others may have more suggestions. Its an interesting dagger

1st April 2014, 04:44 PM	#4
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	I'd advise not to add anything, and leave it as is. There's not much to base the restoration on and it's better not to disturb it's character and to leave it untouched).

1st April 2014, 05:00 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	I'm think it's a cut down and curved bayonet blade added to an Ottoman hilt and is clearly missing its original bolster....which may also have hidden the mystery of whether the two were meant to be together or not.