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5th June 2017, 04:15 PM
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Sarajevo knife and fork.
Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old.
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5th June 2017, 05:16 PM
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Apparently about 1886 vintage... Jolly nice! See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/180988478752536828/ |
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8th May 2020, 07:25 PM
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similer set
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similer set although with a slightly smaller spoon: total length 11,5 cm spoon handle; 7,5 cm spoon part: 4 cm width : handle : 0,9 cm connection handle2spoon: 0,4 cm spoon widest: 2 cm |
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8th May 2020, 08:09 PM
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another set :
- knife made from bone ( typical Bosnian from Sarajevo) - fork made from mountain goat / chamois remarkable is that it is the first time I ever did see a square handle on a Sarajevo Bosnian knife. As for diminsions ( all in cm ) total lenght knife 31,7 blade 18,5 handle 13,7 copper connection 3 total lenght fork 31 blade 18 handle 11 copper connection 2 Last edited by gp : 9th May 2020 at 06:45 PM. |
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9th May 2020, 07:39 PM
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and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia
Knife 32 cm Fork 33 cm |
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23rd May 2020, 10:53 AM
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some additional pics on the square handle knife Last edited by gp : 23rd May 2020 at 11:59 AM. |
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23rd May 2020, 11:13 AM
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also here some more detailed pics, unfortunately the year on the knife could not be better shown |
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29th May 2020, 06:46 PM
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request for advice: I just received this set ( although I knew about the lacking piece of horn on the knife ) was wondering what to do?
Normally from an authentic / original perspective 2 options can be applied: 1. leave as is 2. add a replacement piece in such a way that a clear difference can be seen between original and authentic piece versus addition. This is done f.i. with historic seals or old books or jewelry. Henceforth looking forward to your experience and advice being the new kid on the block... THNX a lot |
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31st May 2020, 08:06 PM
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If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.
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1st June 2020, 08:13 PM
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Thnx a lot for the advice ! Last edited by gp : 1st June 2020 at 08:44 PM. |
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1st June 2020, 08:20 PM
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Proof that most of these smaller knives from a later date were made for non combat reasons but rather ceremonial, domestic or touristic use by the K.u.K. officers corps is for instance this original cutlery set box from 1889
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1st June 2020, 08:34 PM
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seperate from the cutlery box, I have seen several times an original set containing one single knive ( smal bichaq) with one fork and sometimes one spoon being wrapped in a leather cloth.
This being pure functional : for picknick or field lunches by the officers in Bosnia, Hercegowina and Sandzjak. Rarely one sees a luxery version like the enclosed set in a scabbard. This is also an early set as it lacks the year BUT has Sarajevo written in Arabic Turkish caligraphic letters next to Sarajevo in Latin writing, which one does not see at all in later sets { i.e. from the late 188-ies} Last edited by gp : 1st June 2020 at 10:24 PM. |
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15th January 2021, 10:22 PM
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just new in my collection 4 sets: bone, brass and steel, nickel plated
white bone: length 20,3 cm, forks 19 cm green bone: length 21,3 cm, forks 20,8 cm |
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20th February 2021, 11:44 AM
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some better pics on the 2 green sets after cleaning the dirt and a little corrosion
I did not notice before & when buying them, nor was it anyway to be seen on the sellers advert an issue I found remarkable and never did see with any "cutlery"sets before is that the maker went very much into detail of copying a yataghan : the fork having 2 and knife having 3 nails at the top back of the ears / wings any one in the forum seen or having a similar set with these 2 and 3 nails ? Last edited by gp : 20th February 2021 at 12:05 PM. |
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