A challenge ... what would this be? - Page 2

David · 6th August 2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Emanuel

At 5" tall, there aren't many things it can be. Small, must be portable. Decorated, personalized to the owner's taste. Something that would be used more or less commonly. The two horns look worn down, the surface is smooth from handling. Must have been held in the hand, subject to a fair bit of rubbing. I could see it used in weaving of some sort. A type of weaving comb?

Lucet seems most likely, not all have holes - see pic below.

Thoughts...

Emanuel

As i pointed out before, this would not make a very effective lucet as the forks are rounded and slope inwards. The cord would slip off while working. Look at the design of all these other lucets. The folks bow outward to help keep the cord on.
We are spending an awful lot of time on an object which i have serious doubts is any kind of weapon.

fearn · 6th August 2009, 07:13 PM

Hi David,

Perhaps it's one of those infamous Curiosity Trap Sticks, that look like they're really important, and make us look at them far longer than we really should....

David · 6th August 2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fearn

Hi David,

Perhaps it's one of those infamous Curiosity Trap Sticks, that look like they're really important, and make us look at them far longer than we really should....

Some dead guy is having a good laugh on us right now from on high.

Emanuel · 7th August 2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

As i pointed out before, this would not make a very effective lucet as the forks are rounded and slope inwards. The cord would slip off while working. Look at the design of all these other lucets. The folks bow outward to help keep the cord on.
We are spending an awful lot of time on an object which i have serious doubts is any kind of weapon.

The forks could have been worn down through use

At 5" tall, the only offensive use this thing could have is poking eyes out. I agree this can't be a weapon.

fernando · 7th August 2009, 05:31 PM

Hi David,

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

... We are spending an awful lot of time on an object which i have serious doubts is any kind of weapon.

I see that you were in fact the person who has more often posted in this thread.
I humbly beg you to pardon me

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Sure this is not a weapon.
I thought i'd post this curious object for a bit of relaxation, a sort of 'fait divers', hoping not to comit such a major crime

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The truth is that, forumites posted their sugestions, even assuming this is not a weapon in the first place.
Being this forum the place we permanently frequent to query and discuss the items of our basic hobby (weapons), it just comes handy to break the tabu and also post here some non weapon item that crosses in our way.
Surely many a member has his set of curiousities at home, besides the potential of general culture that resides in this comunity.
... one feels tempted to pop up with these riddles

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Fernando

fearn · 7th August 2009, 06:05 PM

Considering how often we talk about weapon-like objects (African money spears, for instance?), I'm not bothered by this. As Fernando noted, it is different. Also, this is August, and if we don't do something different, we'll get stale

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Rick · 7th August 2009, 06:33 PM

August is duck and cover month here (where I live), Fearn .

fearn · 7th August 2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

August is duck and cover month here (where I live), Fearn .

Mosquitoes? Or tourists?

David · 7th August 2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Hi David,
I see that you were in fact the person who has more often posted in this thread.

I know, that's what's really bugging me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

I humbly beg you to pardon me

.
Sure this is not a weapon.
I thought i'd post this curious object for a bit of relaxation, a sort of 'fait divers', hoping not to comit such a major crime

.

Relaxation?! I've been going crazy trying to figure it out and find some answers here. Nothing relaxing about such a mystery!

But seriously Fernando, i was just commenting. Don't get so defensive. You have committed no major crime here. I must admit though that i am rather hoping it still turns out to be a weapon some how, though i strongly doubt it. Maybe you could go out and mug someone with it to see if it is effective.

Crime or not though i do hope this doesn't start a trend here of everyone dragging out their unidentified non-weapon curios for discussion. That could get old fast IMO.

David · 7th August 2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fearn

Mosquitoes? Or tourists?

Is there a difference?

Rick · 7th August 2009, 11:51 PM

Judging by our local news Tourists draw more blood .

Anyway, Fernando's post is not without precedent .

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002485.html

Bryan.H · 9th August 2009, 03:00 AM

This object intrigues me and bugs the hell out of me!

I'm thinking now that it could be a Coptic 'hand cross', used in blessings and processions. It's fairly crudely carved, so maybe a rural village priest made it.

The other thing it may be, along the same lines, is as a ritual object used to handle or hold the vellum prayer scrolls, some of which are only a few inches wide.

alternatively, it's a Kenyan Salad server..

fernando · 9th August 2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Judging by our local news Tourists draw more blood .

Anyway, Fernando's post is not without precedent .

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002485.html

Ah ... i remember this one

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fernando · 9th August 2009, 02:28 PM

I have been at the seller again. He told me he has this thing for quite some time; doesn't even remember where or who he got it from.
He wants some money for it. Not much, but i consider it expensive; anyway, an amount i am not willing to pay.
I handled it again and noticed a certain detail; something new to add to the reasoning of what this device would be: the area between the 'forks' is not of square section, but fairly angular. I don't think this only esthetical, but instead 'sharpened' like that to serve a purpose.

Fernando
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Tim Simmons · 11th September 2009, 08:09 PM

This thing really does look like a domestic tool of some kind. I still feel it is ti do with a craft of some kind, perhaps a pushing tool or parting tool? maybe a traditional womens craft like this ebay item and these things fetch good money.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

fernando · 11th September 2009, 09:05 PM

I (surprisingly) didn't buy it, although its price is five times less than that one in ebay.
... And i still don't know what it is

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7th August 2009, 06:33 PM	#37
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	August is duck and cover month here (where I live), Fearn . Last edited by Rick; 7th August 2009 at 07:00 PM.

7th August 2009, 11:51 PM	#41
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Judging by our local news Tourists draw more blood . Anyway, Fernando's post is not without precedent . http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002485.html Last edited by Rick; 8th August 2009 at 12:22 AM.

9th August 2009, 03:00 AM	#42
Bryan.H Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 51	Ethiopian Coptic artefact. This object intrigues me and bugs the hell out of me! I'm thinking now that it could be a Coptic 'hand cross', used in blessings and processions. It's fairly crudely carved, so maybe a rural village priest made it. The other thing it may be, along the same lines, is as a ritual object used to handle or hold the vellum prayer scrolls, some of which are only a few inches wide. alternatively, it's a Kenyan Salad server.. Attached Images

9th August 2009, 02:28 PM	#44
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	I have been at the seller again. He told me he has this thing for quite some time; doesn't even remember where or who he got it from. He wants some money for it. Not much, but i consider it expensive; anyway, an amount i am not willing to pay. I handled it again and noticed a certain detail; something new to add to the reasoning of what this device would be: the area between the 'forks' is not of square section, but fairly angular. I don't think this only esthetical, but instead 'sharpened' like that to serve a purpose. Fernando . Attached Images

6th August 2009, 07:13 PM	#32
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi David, Perhaps it's one of those infamous Curiosity Trap Sticks, that look like they're really important, and make us look at them far longer than we really should....

7th August 2009, 06:05 PM	#36
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Considering how often we talk about weapon-like objects (African money spears, for instance?), I'm not bothered by this. As Fernando noted, it is different. Also, this is August, and if we don't do something different, we'll get stale F

11th September 2009, 08:09 PM	#45
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	This thing really does look like a domestic tool of some kind. I still feel it is ti do with a craft of some kind, perhaps a pushing tool or parting tool? maybe a traditional womens craft like this ebay item and these things fetch good money. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

11th September 2009, 09:05 PM	#46
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	I (surprisingly) didn't buy it, although its price is five times less than that one in ebay. ... And i still don't know what it is .