Eight Ring Khanjar

archer · 10th February 2012, 03:47 AM

After reading Ibrahiims comments on about the Omani Quba. I went check this one for a quba and noticed for that it had eight rings. Is there a meaning for the additional ring? Thanks, Steve

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 10th February 2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by archer

After reading Ibrahiims comments on about the Omani Quba. I went check this one for a quba and noticed for that it had eight rings. Is there a meaning for the additional ring? Thanks, Steve

Salaams archer ~ This is a Muscat Khanjar. It carries the similar scabbard to the Royal Khanjar but on occasions it has 8 rings which is apparently simply down to preferred design ... The big difference of course is in the dagger hilt which in Muscat Khanjars is formal (as is yours) as opposed to the Royal shape which you can see at my thread The Omani Khanjar. Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

archer · 10th February 2012, 11:21 PM

hello Ibrahiim, I knew you would be able to clarify the additional ring.
Thank you, archer

Atlantia · 11th February 2012, 09:03 AM

Nice examples Archer, how about showing the blades?

archer · 12th February 2012, 07:31 PM

Thanks Atlantia, Both blades are of the two piece fused variety. They came from E Bay, so there's the frequent mystery of what's in store. Overall I like them both. Steve

Atlantia · 12th February 2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by archer

Thanks Atlantia, Both blades are of the two piece fused variety. They came from E Bay, so there's the frequent mystery of what's in store. Overall I like them both. Steve

Really, I wouldn't have guessed they were hollow blades! Very good looking things

archer · 12th February 2012, 09:53 PM

Hi Atlantia, Your eye is better than mine. The Mecca blade stops short of the tip I thought that was a dead give away to a bonded blade. The odd crease
on the mid line of the Muscat blade i took as crushed. It also has a weird Punch like dent on one side that left a bump on the other. They fooled me I now agree that they are whole steel.

Atlantia, You have remote powers, Thanks for assisting a blind dummy.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 16th February 2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by archer

Hi Atlantia, Your eye is better than mine. The Mecca blade stops short of the tip I thought that was a dead give away to a bonded blade. The odd crease
on the mid line of the Muscat blade i took as crushed. It also has a weird Punch like dent on one side that left a bump on the other. They fooled me I now agree that they are whole steel.

Atlantia, You have remote powers, Thanks for assisting a blind dummy.

Salaams archer... and Atlantia ... great posts. Blades are a great study area. I have seen both bonded two piece blades and the one more commonly associated as "Omani" by definition which appears folded but joined as one piece at the ridge. I need to look at the research more to define when all this started happening.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

A.alnakkas · 16th February 2012, 01:15 PM

Ibrahim,

I noticed that most Omani made blades + Saudi made blades generally come forged, are the 2 pieces ones traded from Oman? You also told me before that there are forged trade blades in Oman.. where do they generlaly come from? I am thinking India, but let me know what do you think.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 16th February 2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Ibrahim,

I noticed that most Omani made blades + Saudi made blades generally come forged, are the 2 pieces ones traded from Oman? You also told me before that there are forged trade blades in Oman.. where do they generlaly come from? I am thinking India, but let me know what do you think.

Salaams A.alnakkas ~Khanjar Blades ! I was rather evading the issue as I just know this is going to fly in 10 different directions. I always thought the best Omani Khanjar blades were hand made here. There are some top class workshops elsewhere like Kabul, Pakistan, India making actually far superior blades in laminated or wootz but for their own regional varieties of weapon.

What I do know is that blademaker, scabbard and hilt maker, belt maker... they are miles apart here... some several hundred. Getting a difinitive answer on this will take a while but I will find out.
Its odd that Omanis respect all sorts of "knife blades" from Europe Solingen, Sheffield as well as the SHEHE from Mussandam... and home made filed down Bedford truck springs...but for Khanjar blades I need more time...There are even Japanese imports !
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

10th February 2012, 03:47 AM	#1
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Eight Ring Khanjar After reading Ibrahiims comments on about the Omani Quba. I went check this one for a quba and noticed for that it had eight rings. Is there a meaning for the additional ring? Thanks, Steve Attached Images

10th February 2012, 11:21 PM	#3
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Thanks hello Ibrahiim, I knew you would be able to clarify the additional ring. Thank you, archer

12th February 2012, 07:31 PM	#5
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	requested pics Thanks Atlantia, Both blades are of the two piece fused variety. They came from E Bay, so there's the frequent mystery of what's in store. Overall I like them both. Steve Attached Images Last edited by archer; 12th February 2012 at 09:37 PM.

12th February 2012, 09:53 PM	#7
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	OOPS Hi Atlantia, Your eye is better than mine. The Mecca blade stops short of the tip I thought that was a dead give away to a bonded blade. The odd crease on the mid line of the Muscat blade i took as crushed. It also has a weird Punch like dent on one side that left a bump on the other. They fooled me I now agree that they are whole steel. Atlantia, You have remote powers, Thanks for assisting a blind dummy. Attached Images

11th February 2012, 09:03 AM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Nice examples Archer, how about showing the blades?

16th February 2012, 01:15 PM	#9
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,338	Ibrahim, I noticed that most Omani made blades + Saudi made blades generally come forged, are the 2 pieces ones traded from Oman? You also told me before that there are forged trade blades in Oman.. where do they generlaly come from? I am thinking India, but let me know what do you think.