Cross cultural Indonesian sword?

VVV · 14th March 2006, 09:07 AM

This sword looks like a cross between a Sundanese (W Java) Golok and a Sumatran Klewang.
The scabbard and steel looks very much like a Sundanese Golok.
The horn scabbard tip strongly indicates Sunda and probably 19th C.
The heavy blade and its form however is more Sumatran in its appearance.
Maybe it's a custom order from a Sumatran produced in Sunda?

All input on this non-text book sword is appreciated.

Michael

ingelred · 14th March 2006, 10:49 AM

Hello VVV,

I have a question about the knife.
On the ricsasso there seems to be an inscription.
Is there something like T.J.I.K. on the ricasso?
I ask because I see some resemblances in embelishment to klewangs and otjer knives and swords made in Tjikeroeh Java like the leaf carving an the handle and at the sheath.
Concerning the blade shape, here You can see a Tjikeroeh klewang witj almost the same blade as well as a golok with similar carving:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=Tjikeroeh

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=Tjikeroeh

I recently bought a Tjikeroeh klewang with a dog head handle that also shows some resemblances to the handle of Your klewang like the white eyes:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

The item number is: 7389454102

Greetings, Helge

VVV · 14th March 2006, 04:56 PM

Thanks for your comments Helge,

No there is no ID in what Sundanese place that this sword was produced on the blade, just scratches.
Thanks for the link to the thread showing Ian's sword with a resembling blade form.
That's also an odd one being produced for a European with a Dutch hilt form and another custom blade.
Nice Golok you found. Probably also made for a European.

Michael

14th March 2006, 09:07 AM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Cross cultural Indonesian sword? This sword looks like a cross between a Sundanese (W Java) Golok and a Sumatran Klewang. The scabbard and steel looks very much like a Sundanese Golok. The horn scabbard tip strongly indicates Sunda and probably 19th C. The heavy blade and its form however is more Sumatran in its appearance. Maybe it's a custom order from a Sumatran produced in Sunda? All input on this non-text book sword is appreciated. Michael Attached Images

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14th March 2006, 10:49 AM	#2
ingelred Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Moenchengladbach, Germany Posts: 62	Hello VVV, I have a question about the knife. On the ricsasso there seems to be an inscription. Is there something like T.J.I.K. on the ricasso? I ask because I see some resemblances in embelishment to klewangs and otjer knives and swords made in Tjikeroeh Java like the leaf carving an the handle and at the sheath. Concerning the blade shape, here You can see a Tjikeroeh klewang witj almost the same blade as well as a golok with similar carving: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=Tjikeroeh http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=Tjikeroeh I recently bought a Tjikeroeh klewang with a dog head handle that also shows some resemblances to the handle of Your klewang like the white eyes: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...0%3D%26fvi%3D1 The item number is: 7389454102 Greetings, Helge

14th March 2006, 04:56 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for your comments Helge, No there is no ID in what Sundanese place that this sword was produced on the blade, just scratches. Thanks for the link to the thread showing Ian's sword with a resembling blade form. That's also an odd one being produced for a European with a Dutch hilt form and another custom blade. Nice Golok you found. Probably also made for a European. Michael