Philippine Bowie

G. Mansfield · 27th March 2017, 04:12 AM

From what I understand from research, these type of knives originate from Pampanga/Luzon area of the Philippines showing strong Spanish colonial influence in the hilt, which is composed of brass, horn, and bone.

The seller claimed that this knife was purchased in a collection of a well known Miami Civil War/weapons collector where most of his items had been collected in the 1970s and 1980s. He stated that this specific knife was purchased in the Middle East in the 1970s and was labeled as "Middle Eastern." Though I understood that this was improperly described which then created a question of doubt with the rest of the information. Nonetheless, a great acquisition as this is outside of my normal geographic focus in collecting.

I am wondering about the age of this knife. Would it be considered WWII era or early 20th century? Any further information would be appreciated. Thanks.

-Geoff

Dimensions:
Blade & Hilt Length: 14” (35.5cm)
Blade Length: 8 ½” (22cm)

reference:
http://www.vikingsword.com/lew/w1029/w1029.html

machinist · 27th March 2017, 05:02 AM

A very beautiful knife, the Spanish influence of the hilt seems strongly Canarian.

Ian · 27th March 2017, 06:19 AM

Geoff:

Strong Spanish influence as noted by others.

The knife shown in the reference you cite is more likely Ilocano (judging from the brass guard). However, the guard on your knife is different and not really Ilocano in style. I would not rule out a Mexican origin for your knife--the blade shape is commonly found on Mexican knives (see, for example, here).

Ian

Robert · 27th March 2017, 07:51 AM

With the offset tang (most knives that I have seen from Mexico have the tang more centered to the blade) and the leaf decoration on the butt plate I would agree with G. Mansfield that this knife is most likely from Pampanga and would date to the first quarter of the 20th century.

Best,
Robert

G. Mansfield · 27th March 2017, 06:11 PM

Although I know very little about Southeastern Asian weapons, I based the origin off of shared characteristics of similar examples. Although the cross guard may be different from the one cited, the similarities in the form of the barrel hilt and the materials used show almost an identical relationship.

I compared the "four leaf" tang of this one to other Filipino knives where similar forms are present such as:

http://www.vikingsword.com/lew/w1132/w1132.html
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bowie

-Geoff

27th March 2017, 04:12 AM	#1
G. Mansfield Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Posts: 77	Philippine Bowie From what I understand from research, these type of knives originate from Pampanga/Luzon area of the Philippines showing strong Spanish colonial influence in the hilt, which is composed of brass, horn, and bone. The seller claimed that this knife was purchased in a collection of a well known Miami Civil War/weapons collector where most of his items had been collected in the 1970s and 1980s. He stated that this specific knife was purchased in the Middle East in the 1970s and was labeled as "Middle Eastern." Though I understood that this was improperly described which then created a question of doubt with the rest of the information. Nonetheless, a great acquisition as this is outside of my normal geographic focus in collecting. I am wondering about the age of this knife. Would it be considered WWII era or early 20th century? Any further information would be appreciated. Thanks. -Geoff Dimensions: Blade & Hilt Length: 14” (35.5cm) Blade Length: 8 ½” (22cm) reference: http://www.vikingsword.com/lew/w1029/w1029.html Attached Images

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27th March 2017, 05:02 AM	#2
machinist Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 93	A very beautiful knife, the Spanish influence of the hilt seems strongly Canarian.

27th March 2017, 06:19 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,023	Geoff: Strong Spanish influence as noted by others. The knife shown in the reference you cite is more likely Ilocano (judging from the brass guard). However, the guard on your knife is different and not really Ilocano in style. I would not rule out a Mexican origin for your knife--the blade shape is commonly found on Mexican knives (see, for example, here). Ian

27th March 2017, 07:51 AM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	With the offset tang (most knives that I have seen from Mexico have the tang more centered to the blade) and the leaf decoration on the butt plate I would agree with G. Mansfield that this knife is most likely from Pampanga and would date to the first quarter of the 20th century. Best, Robert

27th March 2017, 06:11 PM	#5
G. Mansfield Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Posts: 77	Although I know very little about Southeastern Asian weapons, I based the origin off of shared characteristics of similar examples. Although the cross guard may be different from the one cited, the similarities in the form of the barrel hilt and the materials used show almost an identical relationship. I compared the "four leaf" tang of this one to other Filipino knives where similar forms are present such as: http://www.vikingsword.com/lew/w1132/w1132.html http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bowie -Geoff