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Old 7th March 2017, 10:03 AM   #1
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Default 3 Philippines wall plaque, from Palencia Town Hall and antiques shops

This Wall plaque is inside town hall in Palencia ( Spain ) . I thing is interesting to Forum..Picture is from newspaper.
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Old 7th March 2017, 10:54 AM   #2
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This is wonderful! Thank you!

Regards from Manila,

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Old 7th March 2017, 11:25 AM   #3
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And 2 more Wall plaques sold in Spain ...
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Old 7th March 2017, 03:14 PM   #4
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Thanks for posting these photos Carlos.
Regarding the Palencia plaque, if this is the present state of the panoply, I commend the caretakers for doing a good job of maintaining it. The kampilans blade piercing seems to be in shape of a naga.

I thought only the Americans reversed the hilts position on the kris', it turns out the Spaniards did as well.
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Old 8th March 2017, 01:50 PM   #5
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Fantastic plaques of Philippine weapons(do I see a Japanese Naginata there); did they go for huge money?The information may be in the link that you provided, but I can not open it.
On one of the plaques, it looks like it is dedicated to the Generals of the Brigade, D.Diego and Martin de Velasco.A quick search on the internet didn't result in any information on these individuals; are you aware of any history of these men?
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Old 8th March 2017, 02:42 PM   #6
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Fantastic plaques of Philippine weapons(do I see a Japanese Naginata there); did they go for huge money?The information may be in the link that you provided, but I can not open it.
On one of the plaques, it looks like it is dedicated to the Generals of the Brigade, D.Diego and Martin de Velasco.A quick search on the internet didn't result in any information on these individuals; are you aware of any history of these men?
The first general's name was D. Diego Buil, but i still didn't find anything in a search under that name.
Here is a translation of part of the article that talks about the two men named on the plaque.
"What is clear is that they were donated by General Buil, a soldier who was stationed in Palencia at the head of the Farnese Regiment, based today in Valladolid. Diego Buil and Martín de Velasco was born on August 15, 1843 and forged a solid professional career in the cavalry weapon throughout the second half of the nineteenth century, fighting fundamentally in the Carlist wars of the Isabellan side. It was destined to the island of Cuba in September of 1875, where it remained until 1884, year in which it returns to the Peninsula with the degree of colonel, after to have fought to the Cuban separtistas in different moments.
In May 1885, he was given the command of the Lancers of Farnesio, a regiment that was now quartered in Palencia, a city to which he would always feel strongly united. This regiment would leave the garrison of Palencia to move definitively to Valladolid in 1896. That year, Diego Buil, was named general of Brigade and continued to the front of the lancers."
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Old 8th March 2017, 03:19 PM   #7
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Fantastic plaques of Philippine weapons(do I see a Japanese Naginata there); did they go for huge money?The information may be in the link that you provided, but I can not open it.
On one of the plaques, it looks like it is dedicated to the Generals of the Brigade, D.Diego and Martin de Velasco.A quick search on the internet didn't result in any information on these individuals; are you aware of any history of these men?

The red Wall plaque was a present of the General to the city of Palencia.
The Green/ blue Wall plaque was sold by 2900 euros. and the yellow Wall plaque I don,t know was the Price.

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Old 8th March 2017, 03:51 PM   #8
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Hello Carlos,

thank you for posting this! I see some very intersting weapons on the plaques!

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Old 8th March 2017, 04:25 PM   #9
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Neat presentations, thank you.

What if any attribution can be made for the double spear head seen down the page? And exacting details?

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Old 8th March 2017, 05:09 PM   #10
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Thanks for the information on the generals and the price of the plaque(I think it was a great price for the buyer).
I was wondering about the double headed spear myself, which to me seems to be more African in nature ;I have one that resembles that one, but with 4 heads.
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Old 8th March 2017, 06:19 PM   #11
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I've had this for many years.
It originally came with a collection of Luzon and Visayan sandata.
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Old 8th March 2017, 10:21 PM   #12
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i believe the double headed spear is known as "dua sanga", per Andson Cowie's book English-Sulu-Malay Vocabulary
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Hello All,

Apologies if the answer is obvious, but do we know anything about this one?

It almost looks like a Sangi and a Barong had a baby.

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It almost looks like a Sangi and a Barong had a baby.
That's what i was thinking Leif. I've never seen one quite like it. Anybody?
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It could be a small bladed panabas with cut down handle!?
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Old 9th March 2017, 08:26 PM   #16
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It could be a small bladed panabas with cut down handle!?

You're right the handle does look a lot like a Panabas.

Let me update our story. A barong and a sangi had a baby and it was adopted by a panabas who later moved to Spain.

Oh, and I assume the horizontal thing isn't a crossguard, but a piece of leather which is holding the baby to the plaque. Do people agree?

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Oh, and I assume the horizontal thing isn't a crossguard, but a piece of leather which is holding the baby to the plaque. Do people agree?
Yes!
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Old 9th March 2017, 09:23 PM   #18
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it's a rare form of Panabas, per Cato's Moro Sword
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According to Cato, this form of pandas is for fighting.
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