identification and opinion

ericlaude · 1st October 2009, 07:03 PM

Hello ,
someone can lighting me on the origin of this knife.
Length 16' ovl
hilt made with bronze and scabbard is made with wood and bronze
Is it Sassak or Batak or other?.....

Rick · 1st October 2009, 07:12 PM

I would suggest it is Batak from the motifs .

Sajen · 1st October 2009, 08:01 PM

Would agree, clearly Batak motif. What material is the handle?

sajen

ericlaude · 1st October 2009, 08:47 PM

The handle is made in sculted massive bronze.

Battara · 1st October 2009, 11:21 PM

I too vote Batak......

ericlaude · 2nd October 2009, 08:22 PM

Ok, thanks to all , but this other piece is also Batak?

Sajen · 2nd October 2009, 10:15 PM

Hello Eric,

no, this is a sword from Sumba, similar a Kabeala but from the region around the city from Bondokodi. I have a very similar sword, look here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10000

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 2nd October 2009, 10:30 PM

Here a picture for comparison.

ericlaude · 2nd October 2009, 10:32 PM

Thank you Sajen, now its clear , the blade of this piece and the Kabeala 's blade are the same ,But where can I find an article or documentation of this?

Sajen · 2nd October 2009, 10:52 PM

Hello Eric,

like you see in my thread, I also don't know something more about and I have never found something. The only information I have is A. from the seller of my sword and from B. the e-bay seller Tafenso, he offered two or three swords of this type in the last years, he described them as Bondokodi swords from Sumba. After a look in my Indonesien map I have seen that this is a village on Sumba. This is the same what the seller of my sword told me in 1994, he have been from there.

Detlef

1st October 2009, 07:03 PM	#1
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	identification and opinion Hello , someone can lighting me on the origin of this knife. Length 16' ovl hilt made with bronze and scabbard is made with wood and bronze Is it Sassak or Batak or other?..... Attached Images

1st October 2009, 07:12 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	I would suggest it is Batak from the motifs . Attached Images

1st October 2009, 08:47 PM	#4
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	handle The handle is made in sculted massive bronze.

2nd October 2009, 08:22 PM	#6
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	other sword Ok, thanks to all , but this other piece is also Batak? Attached Images

2nd October 2009, 10:30 PM	#8
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,487	Here a picture for comparison. Attached Images

1st October 2009, 08:01 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,487	Would agree, clearly Batak motif. What material is the handle? sajen

1st October 2009, 11:21 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I too vote Batak......

2nd October 2009, 10:15 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,487	Hello Eric, no, this is a sword from Sumba, similar a Kabeala but from the region around the city from Bondokodi. I have a very similar sword, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10000 Regards, Detlef

2nd October 2009, 10:32 PM	#9
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	yes Thank you Sajen, now its clear , the blade of this piece and the Kabeala 's blade are the same ,But where can I find an article or documentation of this?

2nd October 2009, 10:52 PM	#10
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,487	Hello Eric, like you see in my thread, I also don't know something more about and I have never found something. The only information I have is A. from the seller of my sword and from B. the e-bay seller Tafenso, he offered two or three swords of this type in the last years, he described them as Bondokodi swords from Sumba. After a look in my Indonesien map I have seen that this is a village on Sumba. This is the same what the seller of my sword told me in 1994, he have been from there. Detlef