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Old 10th February 2020, 07:07 AM   #1
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Default Identification 19th century cav sword

Hello,
I am new here, but im looking for your expertise on this subject. I bought this sword at auction described as a WWI artillery officer sword, but its quite obvious that the description doesnt match. The format is very similar to that of Napoleons Imperial Guard, but instead of an "N" it has a "G" and the imperial eagle has been substituted with a sun. Thanks for the help and enjoy
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Old 10th February 2020, 11:23 AM   #2
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Calien, if you cared to have a look to our forum rules, you would be aware that posting pictures with links to web hosts is not the correct procedure.
This time i will save them to a computer, resize them (rotate a couple) and upload them with the adequate attachment features.
I notice that you have had an opinion that your nice sword is Prussian. Let us see whether members here concur with such assessment.


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Old 10th February 2020, 05:07 PM   #3
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Possibly this is an Italian sabre of the kingdom of Naples under Joseph Bonaparte who was king in Naples from 1806 to 1808. He was the brother of Napoleon Bonaparte and his Italien name was Giuseppe Buonaparte = "G".
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Old 11th February 2020, 10:08 AM   #4
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Old 11th February 2020, 03:32 PM   #5
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Thank you Fernando and I apologize about that. Corrado thats amazing! Ive been searching for someone that matches the "G" but completely forgot to translate his name. That is a huge clue that I will definitely will look into. Any other input is greatly appreciated.
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Old 11th February 2020, 04:44 PM   #6
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Yes the maker is Gebruder Weyersberg of Solingen its written on the spine.
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Old 11th February 2020, 05:21 PM   #7
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So ... you have not noticed that before, Calien ...
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Old 11th February 2020, 07:20 PM   #8
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No, it always comes up as Joseph Bonaparte in English and I never made the connection. Its the same with Murat I just noticed his first name in Italian is Gioacchino Murat...so it could also be him. I need to do more research thats for sure.
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Old 11th February 2020, 07:30 PM   #9
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Its also possible that it could be from Murat as his name translates into "Gioacchino Napoleone Murat". Im hoping I can find a similar sample with the same monogram.
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Something that caught my eye was the notched drag of the chape, something I would have thought no more of, except that I had just finished reading a thread on here, about notched points, of this same configuration.
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Old 22nd April 2020, 09:05 AM   #11
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Something that caught my eye was the notched drag of the chape, something I would have thought no more of, except that I had just finished reading a thread on here, about notched points, of this same configuration.


Could you link the thread please?
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It would be a particularly vicious practice to gut enemies using a blunt scabbard! Perhaps the story about using the notches to pick up horse reins is true after all? Or maybe French soldiers used notches on scabbards to recognize their swords amongst others? I have a French Napoleonic sabre cavalerie legere modele AN XI which has a notched M or W on the scabbard drag.
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