Rubens hunter

Miqueleter · 30th June 2015, 09:41 AM

Greetings, I have been wanting to ask the members what variety of gunlock is pictured in Peter Paul Rubens An Autumn Landscape with a View of Hetsteen circa 1635. I believe it to be an agujeta of sorts. Detail in paintings leave a lot to the imagination. But given the time and place of the painting, agujeta or maybe some sort of romanlock seems likely.

Anyone care to take a stab at it?

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Fernando K · 30th June 2015, 05:05 PM

hello

I can not or will not enlarge the image to see the details ...

Fernando K

Miqueleter · 30th June 2015, 09:21 PM

Fernando K, I see what you mean. I will do some more work and come up with a zoomed image later today. Sorry about that.

Miqueleter · 30th June 2015, 10:19 PM

Fernando, as you may suspect, I am not a whiz at posting photos, so this one may be overkill.

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Fernando K · 30th June 2015, 10:50 PM

Quizás quisiste decir: Hola, Miguelete Es imposible aventurar alguna opinion, pero te diria que no se trata de la agujet porque no se ve el gancho de seguridad, detras del cock, y se adivina un resorte doblado del frizeen. Para mi, el artista quiso pintar un miquelete clasico. Por comparacion hay algunos autores españoles, que han reflejado exactamente la agujet y el miguelete. En este foro, hay un post iniciado por Matchlock, con la agujet en una pintura, hay una pintura de Francisco de Goya, Carlos III cazador, con una escopeta de miquelete Afectuosamente. Fernando K P

: He escrito agujet sin la A final por problemas con el traductor
Hello, Migueleter

It is impossible to venture any opinion, but I would say that is not the agujet because there is safety hook, behind the cock, and a bent spring frizeen guess. For me, the artist wanted to paint a classic miquelete.

By comparison there are some Spanish authors who have reflected exactly the agujet and miguelete. In this forum, there is a post initiated by Matchlock, with agujet in a painting is a painting of Francisco de Goya, Carlos III hunter with a shotgun miquelete

Affectionately. Fernando K

P: D: I have written without the final A agujet problems with the translator

Raf · 2nd July 2015, 09:55 AM

A comparison with one of our Algerian toe locks shown cocked and viewed at a similar oblique angle . Surely it has to be a toe lock which is one of the simplest and probably earliest form of snapping type locks . Competitive with the Miguelet in Spain , contemporary with the wheelock in Italy, widely distributed though Russia and primitive versions are still being used in Tibet.

30th June 2015, 09:41 AM	#1
Miqueleter Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 39	Rubens hunter Greetings, I have been wanting to ask the members what variety of gunlock is pictured in Peter Paul Rubens An Autumn Landscape with a View of Hetsteen circa 1635. I believe it to be an agujeta of sorts. Detail in paintings leave a lot to the imagination. But given the time and place of the painting, agujeta or maybe some sort of romanlock seems likely. Anyone care to take a stab at it? [IMG][/IMG]

30th June 2015, 10:19 PM	#4
Miqueleter Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 39	Fernando, as you may suspect, I am not a whiz at posting photos, so this one may be overkill. [IMG][/IMG]

30th June 2015, 10:50 PM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 663	Quizás quisiste decir: Hola, Miguelete Es imposible aventurar alguna opinion, pero te diria que no se trata de la agujet porque no se ve el gancho de seguridad, detras del cock, y se adivina un resorte doblado del frizeen. Para mi, el artista quiso pintar un miquelete clasico. Por comparacion hay algunos autores españoles, que han reflejado exactamente la agujet y el miguelete. En este foro, hay un post iniciado por Matchlock, con la agujet en una pintura, hay una pintura de Francisco de Goya, Carlos III cazador, con una escopeta de miquelete Afectuosamente. Fernando K P: He escrito agujet sin la A final por problemas con el traductor Hello, Migueleter It is impossible to venture any opinion, but I would say that is not the agujet because there is safety hook, behind the cock, and a bent spring frizeen guess. For me, the artist wanted to paint a classic miquelete. By comparison there are some Spanish authors who have reflected exactly the agujet and miguelete. In this forum, there is a post initiated by Matchlock, with agujet in a painting is a painting of Francisco de Goya, Carlos III hunter with a shotgun miquelete Affectionately. Fernando K P: D: I have written without the final A agujet problems with the translator

2nd July 2015, 09:55 AM	#6
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 238	A comparison with one of our Algerian toe locks shown cocked and viewed at a similar oblique angle . Surely it has to be a toe lock which is one of the simplest and probably earliest form of snapping type locks . Competitive with the Miguelet in Spain , contemporary with the wheelock in Italy, widely distributed though Russia and primitive versions are still being used in Tibet. Attached Images

30th June 2015, 05:05 PM	#2
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 663	hello I can not or will not enlarge the image to see the details ... Fernando K

30th June 2015, 09:21 PM	#3
Miqueleter Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 39	Fernando K, I see what you mean. I will do some more work and come up with a zoomed image later today. Sorry about that.