Some Swords For ID

Rick · 9th April 2013, 04:37 PM

Any ideas on these two ?
I know they have condition issues, but are they rare or desirable ?
Thank you Gentlemen .

Gavin Nugent · 9th April 2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Any ideas on these two ?
I know they have condition issues, but are they rare or desirable ?
Thank you Gentlemen .

Rare and desirable is most often in the eye of the beholder.

Do you like them?
Yes = buy and keep
No = keep walking

Gavin

fernando · 9th April 2013, 06:09 PM

The first one, Spanish, could be the 1860 Light Cavalry sabre, for either officer or trooper, the officer blade being nickeled (chromed) and larger 860 m/m, instead of 835 m/m. for troopers. The grip for officers covered with 'ray' skin and the trooper's in basic leather ; therefore the date 1870 on the blade spine being the production date. But don't take this for granted; i am no expert, only an enthusiast, hapenning to have a small book on Spanish light armament.
The second one being a German 1840 Cavalry saber by W. WALSCHEID from Solingen; again an atempt to score.
These are basic specimens, worth a humble price, i would say.
If you are interested in starting to collect European stuff, this is a modest way ... which is no crime, anyhow. But the thing is that, contrary to Ethno (non Western) stuff, age in European arms count a lot ... and these two qualify as 'modern'. This is why Europan collecting consumes a greater budget

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Having said that, i am not distant from Gav's hint: you like them, you buy them.
By the way, i find that screw inside the guard of the Toledo sabre a bit off topic; besides looking modern, i don't know what it is for.

Well, you may consider my incipient diagnosis only until someone more knowledeable pops in.

Rick · 9th April 2013, 07:21 PM

Thanks fellas .

Doing a favor for a friend; I've no interest in this stuff .
The screw is odd, Fernando .

I do not have the pieces on hand .

Gavin Nugent · 10th April 2013, 01:19 PM

Perhaps the screw served to hold a leather thumb or finger ring

Gavin

9th April 2013, 04:37 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	Some Swords For ID Any ideas on these two ? I know they have condition issues, but are they rare or desirable ? Thank you Gentlemen . Attached Images

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Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	The Screw Perhaps the screw served to hold a leather thumb or finger ring Gavin

9th April 2013, 06:09 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	The first one, Spanish, could be the 1860 Light Cavalry sabre, for either officer or trooper, the officer blade being nickeled (chromed) and larger 860 m/m, instead of 835 m/m. for troopers. The grip for officers covered with 'ray' skin and the trooper's in basic leather ; therefore the date 1870 on the blade spine being the production date. But don't take this for granted; i am no expert, only an enthusiast, hapenning to have a small book on Spanish light armament. The second one being a German 1840 Cavalry saber by W. WALSCHEID from Solingen; again an atempt to score. These are basic specimens, worth a humble price, i would say. If you are interested in starting to collect European stuff, this is a modest way ... which is no crime, anyhow. But the thing is that, contrary to Ethno (non Western) stuff, age in European arms count a lot ... and these two qualify as 'modern'. This is why Europan collecting consumes a greater budget . Having said that, i am not distant from Gav's hint: you like them, you buy them. By the way, i find that screw inside the guard of the Toledo sabre a bit off topic; besides looking modern, i don't know what it is for. Well, you may consider my incipient diagnosis only until someone more knowledeable pops in.

9th April 2013, 07:21 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,263	Thanks fellas . Doing a favor for a friend; I've no interest in this stuff . The screw is odd, Fernando . I do not have the pieces on hand .