keris-film

sirek · 1st January 2010, 07:07 PM

For those who have not seen this documentary already,

"Keris In Malay World "

including: empu Djeno Harumbrodjo making a keris

http://kelantan.muzium.net/v2/index....d=61&Itemid=86

(unfortunately the film does not run until the end

)

enjoy

Alam Shah · 1st January 2010, 08:14 PM

Available in DVD and VCD media format. The empu Djeno footage is informative, so is the other 'batik painting' method shown, and the 'wire-inlay' arabic text modifications, etc.

David · 18th January 2010, 06:19 PM

Don't know why it took me so long to actually watch this. Great documentary. I wish that it didn't cut off at the end. Certainly one of the most complete viewings of keris making i have yet to see.

Thanks for posting this.

ThePepperSkull · 18th January 2010, 08:12 PM

Very informative, especially for those like myself who are just beginning to learn about keris!

Thank you for posting this up, It is very well appreciated!

ferrylaki · 19th January 2010, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirek

For those who have not seen this documentary already,

"Keris In Malay World "

including: empu Djeno Harumbrodjo making a keris

http://kelantan.muzium.net/v2/index....d=61&Itemid=86

(unfortunately the film does not run until the end

)

enjoy

I thought empu Djeno was Indonesian...

David · 19th January 2010, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrylaki

I thought empu Djeno was Indonesian...

Javanese i believe to be more precise. I believe that the documentary was operating on the assumption that Malay culture extends through societies that speak Malay based languages and Jawa would indeed be one of them.

ferrylaki · 19th January 2010, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Javanese i believe to be more precise. I believe that the documentary was operating on the assumption that Malay culture extends through societies that speak Malay based languages and Jawa would indeed be one of them.

thank you David. I found a similar video in youtube last year. perhaps it was the same video mentioned before. showing the keris making in late empu Djeno's besalen.

A. G. Maisey · 19th January 2010, 08:02 AM

I actually thought that the Malaysians had highjacked Djeno.

Javanese and Malay are both Austronesian languages --- along with many other languages, including languages spoken across the Pacific, as far east as Easter Island.

The boundaries of the idea of a "Malay World" have been debated by academics for many years. Some want to limit the Malay World to the core cultures such as Malaya, Indonesia and a couple of other countries, others want to include all those places where an Austronesian language is spoken.

A few years ago a friend of mine made a short documentary of Djeno at work. I don't know if he is still selling copies, but I'll try to find out.

Alam Shah · 19th January 2010, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

A few years ago a friend of mine made a short documentary of Djeno at work. I don't know if he is still selling copies, but I'll try to find out.

I'm interested to get a copy.. btw, last weekend, while looking for a book in my storage boxes, stumbled upon Knives '90.. while browsing thru' it, found a keris article, The GREAT blades of JAVA, written by your good self, 20 years ago. First time I see a picture of you..

rasdan · 22nd January 2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I actually thought that the Malaysians had highjacked Djeno.

I'm sorry Alan, i would have to disagree on this. The video did give Empu Djeno's origin and where he resided and this cannot be regarded as "hijacking" by Malaysia.

In all of the cases where Malaysia had been said to be "claiming" this and that the accusation is actually a slander/inaccurate and these issues have been raised just to generate hate towards Malaysia. Thanks.

Rasdan

1st January 2010, 07:07 PM	#1
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 165	keris-film For those who have not seen this documentary already, "Keris In Malay World " including: empu Djeno Harumbrodjo making a keris http://kelantan.muzium.net/v2/index....d=61&Itemid=86 (unfortunately the film does not run until the end ) enjoy

1st January 2010, 08:14 PM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Available in DVD and VCD media format. The empu Djeno footage is informative, so is the other 'batik painting' method shown, and the 'wire-inlay' arabic text modifications, etc.

18th January 2010, 06:19 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,023	Don't know why it took me so long to actually watch this. Great documentary. I wish that it didn't cut off at the end. Certainly one of the most complete viewings of keris making i have yet to see. Thanks for posting this.

18th January 2010, 08:12 PM	#4
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Very informative, especially for those like myself who are just beginning to learn about keris! Thank you for posting this up, It is very well appreciated!

19th January 2010, 08:02 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,697	I actually thought that the Malaysians had highjacked Djeno. Javanese and Malay are both Austronesian languages --- along with many other languages, including languages spoken across the Pacific, as far east as Easter Island. The boundaries of the idea of a "Malay World" have been debated by academics for many years. Some want to limit the Malay World to the core cultures such as Malaya, Indonesia and a couple of other countries, others want to include all those places where an Austronesian language is spoken. A few years ago a friend of mine made a short documentary of Djeno at work. I don't know if he is still selling copies, but I'll try to find out.